Logic
Logic
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The funny thing about this that nobody here cared when Iran was bombing these places and treating Palestinians like human refuse for decades. Post 9/11 Americans literally think they own the Middle East and treat it like their playground and want it to bend to its will.
Fix your own dumpster fire Americans, i know it’s easier to just criticize other countries though.
Hey, you can't just rebrand literal propaganda as satire!
I mean, it is satiric & very funny, but it's on the same level of fuckery as The Onion reporting regular news - unbelievable, sounding sarcastic, fucked up, & funny (until you realise it's just true :D).
(This is a joke comment ofc, the standoffishness is faked for lame comedic purposes.)
I wonder: would that region of the world have reached some sort of equilibrium if the rest of the world didn’t constantly fuck with them, or would it just be a different kind of shitshow?
As with other regions, the wars between neighbouring(ish) countries subside with cultural & economic development - if the countries (ever) get to that point (cross several big thresholds). And we don't even have enough data to verify if this is even actually true.
But like Europe, constant warring for millennia up until 19th century, then sure, two really big wars, but you could already see how culture & economy of the masses shifted & favoured peace over war ("even with the stinking neighbours who we are racist towards"), it became harder to entice wars and/or to convince people we need a war with a neighbour.
I feel like this sort of rule of majority (in practice) & low scarcity is the natural equilibrium where huge efforts for maintaining peace aren't required.
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(Even both WW were because of this equilibrium shifted massively into huge inequalities.)
African countries (so lower industrial development & big inequalities even on small scales bcs scarcity for basics, like food & life opportunities, exaggerates those) see constant proper wars (1 on 1 skirmishes between two countries or even regions), but since mass starvation became a thing of the past, so did the fighting become less intense.
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(Africa is huge tho, generalisations like this aren't representative of actual issues.)
With that I think Middle East would definitely be a much more peaceful place without massive colonialist fuckery over the centuries, or at least without Russia & USA (which covers establishing Israel). Longer lasting stable culture & increasing trade dependency & prosperity + no foreigners financing radical terrorist groups (which comparatively quickly become the dominant power by sheer asset value), yes, I think it would be a much better place & wars a lot shorter.
Now, imagine that Middle East but if the world was already off of fossil fuels for the last century (so less inequality between countries).
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Maybe a great (and accessible) active cultural hub between Europe & India?
I feel like without oil the middle East would be like northern Africa. No real natural resources to kickstart an economy leading to seemingly perpetual poverty.
Everything improving for the better is part of that "equilibrium." Peace and stability improves education which just makes everything better over time.
When Taliban first took over Afghanistan they had banned women from attending highschool. They later opened up "training courses" with same curricilum as highschools that women are allowed to attend.
Progress is slow, but the many economic sanctions placed on the country doesn't help.
Overall situation is still extremely bad there but the reason Taliban got to run that country in the first place is two centuries of imperialism (The British) so more of it isn't gonna help.
Almost certainly the former. Same with Africa.
Almost all major conflicts and broken political situations can be traced back to colonialism and/or organized religion.
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Mmm - I think for a particular definition of equilibrium, yes. That definition might be pretty horrible though. And it's a moot point either way.
Ah yes, the people (Iran) doing this are TOTALLY NOT a threat to peace
People are doing this in other parts of the world too. Maybe we should consider everyone a threat to peace.
So when your neighbour hits his wife, you think it's justified to just straight up murder them both?
At least in those cases the Iranian state didn't use their military to conduct the acid attacks. The Iranian government paid reparations to the victims on behalf of the fact the perpetrators were not caught.
I am willing to risk suggesting the damage causes by Israeli bombings has outstripped the acid attacks already. They're completely different orders of magnitude.
I don't have an answer to how to handle the region, it's beyond me. The Israel state sucks ass and it's committing genocide.
But the Iranian state are also extremist and I don't doubt for a millisecond would do terrible things if it had the support Israel has.
What do you mean would? They already contribute massively to destabilising the region. They dont just attack isreal either.
And you don't think it would be worse when an air force and nukes?
two things can be bad at the same time
My eyes did a little dance as they purused those crispy edges.
Who owns the US Congress?
I believe Russia and Israel are currently enjoying joint custody of the US, though Israel has the majority of custodial rights.
Russia owns the majority through the MAGA/Evangelical wingnut lobby and ExxonMobil/BP/Shell in other cases. Israel covers all bases.
Russia during official events and gatherings, Israel the rest of the time.
The message of this post is spot on but im weirdly annoyed that the meme format has been used wrong lol.
If they all just died there would be peace, duh /sarcasm/
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Just discovered this (first link random):
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It's hard to set points in this story but let's try it.
Israel now is kinda theocratic state with a fascist in charge indeed, but Iran it's no second to it. I hear many talking shit about Us imperialism, never heard a word about China, Russia or Iran's one.
Iran is indeed a threat to Isreal (yeah, I know, those dictatorships like to flex bit they're much worse than they depict). And its imperialism drove to 7/10.
Israel has in my opinion the right to face Iran, what's mad is how they're facing Hamas/Palestinians instead. But we said no? Bibi is fascist to the bones.
Still, Israel doesn't want to destroy Iran and has never set a clock to Iran's destruction.
Israel doesn't want to destroy Iran
Tell that to all the Israeli politicians calling for Tehran to burn, and bibi saying that they're trying to kill the Supreme leader.
Israel definitely wants to force some sort of regime change in Iran. Multiple Israeli politicians have posed with the pretender shah saying he's coming back any day now, and they've tried to decapitate the top of the Islamic Republic multiple times hoping it will instigate some sort of revolution.
Persia has been around for a minute or two, taking down this government doesn't end Iran
To my knowledge, Iran and other middle east countries are part of the no nuclear NPT treaties with the US. The only one that isn't a member of these treaties is Israel. There is no real proof, despite them trying to pull a W Bush 'they have nukes' lies-to-war propaganda, Iran has any nuclear weapons. Do you know who does? Israel.
And russia. They may have 'mispaced' a couple in exchange for some drones.
Honestly, the whole region would be within their right to leave the place a pile of ash.
I think most of the world feels that way about the US at this moment.
Fair enough.
iirc, they tried, and when the us intervened they put sanctions on the U.S. .....yeah, the U.S. didn't take economic sanctions for thier war crimes very well and uh, committed more war crimes.
Like my dad always said, there's no war crime a few more war crimes cant fix.
You mean 1973? That was retaking territory they had lost in 1967. By 1973 Israel's existence was a fait accompli and they really weren't going anywhere. The war crimes bit is true, however, though it's a small comfort that the Oil Crisis precipitated the economic crisis that got Reagan elected.