Not fair, China keeps doing nothing!

So funny we are doing this to ourselves, our university system was the envy of the world even with all its issues. Not anymore lol.

It's especially funny because the administrations/boards of these universities were totally willing to be collaborators with the administration, as long as they could save face and have the semblance of academic freedom
our university system was the envy of the world
I've heard a lot of USAians claim this, I've never heard anyone else claim it of the USA. Like literally 0 times anywhere.
I think a large fraction of countries consider their own university system the envy of the world.
- No one outside the US claims it because those that would were (not anymore) here and in the university system.

Only tangentially related, but I fully expect Tsinghua University and Peking University to become household names in the global South and quite possibly the West in the near future. The American University system isn't a means of education, but rather a product sold to families. Harvard in particular is moreso a brand than a school and exists to make a profit not to educate. This difference is especially seen in how Chinese universities focus on improvement as opposed to American ones. For universities in China to improve, they increase funding, increase enrollment, increase staff and improve facilities. Meanwhile, for American universities to improve they need to go through a process that I can only describe as high energy marketing bullshit (for example Northeastern's shenanigans). Chinese education is higher throughput, more economical, more difficult, and a cause for the Chinese century.

As I said in the other thread:

That’s what I’m fucking talking about

Now start doing it for researchers whose grants get cancelled and you get to dominate scientific research for like .1% of your national budget

The CCP is harvesting our brains

AND IT IS THE SAME BRAINS THAT WE WANTED TO KICK OUT WTF
Can I volunteer to have my brain harvested?

Reverse brain drain now!

I wish they would do nothing faster

Don't do something, just stand there! :boglechad:

A US judge hurriedly tried to block Trump's order:

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5316172-judge-blocks-trump-administrations-foreign-students-ban-harvard/

Article link (archive)

Relevant article from SCMP with more info from the Chinese perspective (archive):

Any int student blocked from Harvard is gonna just jump to another US top uni. Even if that's banned there's Oxbridge, EP, ANU, etc.
- Oxbridge
  Wouldn’t count on that too much, we don’t really like giving research grants either. I mean research just generates knowledge and how has that ever benefitted anyone?
  Seriously though, I don’t know why, but apparently they’re quite hard to come by.
- An even bigger problem is that too many Chinese students are still choosing to go to the US, UK or Australia to study. This is extremely dangerous because these people then go back to China with their heads full of neoliberal ideology and west-worship, especially in neoliberal elitist cesspools like Harvard, Stanford, Oxford, Cambridge, or, god forbid, Yale. Even the "ideal" scenario in which these people choose to stay in the West and don't become a fifth column in China, it still represents brain drain for China. China needs to start treating this as a critical national security issue, because it is.