Why You Can (And Should) Opt Out Of TSA Facial Recognition Right Now
Why You Can (And Should) Opt Out Of TSA Facial Recognition Right Now
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Why You Can (And Should) Opt Out Of TSA Facial Recognition Right Now
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We were told it was not optional coming home from an international flight last month. However, our toddler was with us and nervous and they said we could opt out for him. I said great, thanks. Picked him up while we were talking and I wasn't really thinking about where I was holding him. The agent looked over, smiled and said hi to get their attention, and I saw him take the image, seconds after we verbally opted out. Sigh.
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I'm legitimately surprised at the amount of actual morons in this thread popping out with the ol "They already have it why not just make it as easy as possible for them to continually keep an updated database of your current facial appearance?".
Same vein as "I have nothing to hide so privacy invasions are fine!". Fuck off with this cattle-ass mindset.
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This never stops them breaking the law, more fake privacy. Start with what you can control, like your apps.
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Last time I tried to opt out of the face scan the TSA agent literally laughed in my face, the rule of law is a joke in this country.
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Insist.
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Every time I opt out I am mysteriously pulled aside for a "randomized check."
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Fascinating how many "people" here are saying it's ok, "you're already on camera", "your picture is on your ID "...
And? I'll still say no.
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I'm a bit confused at the technology here...or the logic.
They say they don't store your photo. So how does taking a photo prove anything if there's no data to compare it to?
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they are comparing it to the id.
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My question is does opt out keep them from imaging your id in any way? Because my id already has my photo.
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Probably not. But you have the right to opt out, so you should. Don't make it any more convenient for them to violate your rights than you have to, and if someone proves they're retaining data illegally, you could join a class action lawsuit.
If you comply, you might save a few minutes. Is that really worth it?
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Didn’t take any extra time for me to opt out in SFO. It was a quick and he just took an extra 2 seconds to stare at my ID and face.
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I mean the convenience is worth it when the commodity is valueless. They got that when I applied for passport at the federal level and drivers license at the state level. Some folks give facebook a whole bunch and out all their relatives.
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Does this also apply to the face scans they ask U.S. citizens to do when passing the Canadian border?
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If it's into Canada, I don't think you have that option. If it's into the US, then yeah, they have to let you enter, so I assume refusing face scans is allowed. They can certainly detain you, but you have rights. IANAL though, and YMMV depending on the color of your skin and/or accent, unfortunately.
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I love how "it's already bad may as well go full stupid" is your security and privacy policy.
Open with this if you interview with us, okay? I'll tell my boss to look out for it and save us some time.
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Open with this if you interview with us, okay? I'll tell my boss to look out for it and save us some time.
This is some "That happened" material right here.
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Why SHOULD you decline to have a photo taken to compare to your ID with your photo on it? This article doesn't say that, but that's what the headline reads.
This is not "it's already bad, might as well go full stupid" so much as "did you know bread has dirt in it? you should avoid it." - people who don't wash their hands after they shit.
By all means decline the picture, but most people have way, WAY bigger security and privacy problems than having a live picture taken when they fly once a year.
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Why would you defend this?
We trust an enormous amount of data to the federal government, and until recently, that privacy risk was mitigated by the fact that the branches did not automatically share data with each other.
Now, they are trying to vacuum it all up, and increase the power of the government.
Why should the federal government have my driver's license photo anyway? That's through the state. And even if they did, why should I give them easy access to an updated photo of me, cross referenced with my name and identity?
If the answer is it speeds up the TSA's job and makes them more accurate, I don't think that's a compelling enough reason for me personally to give up that little bit of privacy.
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The current admin is utilizing IRS data for deportation efforts and the USPS for data collection in furtherance of those same efforts. Why would collection of facial recognition data from the TSA be any different?
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The TSA site specifically says that the photos are not stored. AI training data generated from the "live" photo(s) they take would be just as useful to them for the things people should be worried about and there's no mention of them not storing that data.
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what they might do rather than what they are doing, which is not keeping the pics taken at kiosks
Do you have proof of that? I personally don't trust what law enforcement says. They have already proven themselves incompetent and to have no respect for the law, what more reason do I need to not trust them?
Even if I do believe them, making things inconvenient for the police is just a small way for me to get back at them for making my life inconvenient. If enough people push back and slow TSA to a crawl, they'll reconsider the policy.
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You don't need to provide a reason, you just have to say you choose to opt out.
Frankly with how easily this administration attempts to skirt the law, and defy judges that tell them to knock it off, I would not trust that the TSA is always deleting the photos that they're supposed to.
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