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Before you reply to me directly please understand:
The US overthrew democracy in the country I am from
The US installed a fascist king with secret police that terrorized my family
Once kicked out the US supported a dictator in the neighboring country where the other half of my family lived
The US funded both sides of a war between my country and the neighboring one that led to mass civilian deaths, one side directly by giving a dictator weapons and cash and the other side clandestinely thru laundering money by selling drugs in Latin America
Once they lost that war turned on the dictator in the neighboring country and invented reasons to illegally invade. Twice
Toppled the regime and left a power vacuum that consumed all my family that lived there for literally hundreds of years.
Created material conditions in the country my family is from that forced them to leave or die
You Americans are not the good guys, your country and government is evil to its core.
- My best guess is that you are from Iran? If memory serves, this got kicked off via the Anglo-Persian oil company, 51% owned by the Brits. (They go by BP now.) The company was a private entity that was treating the Iranian workforce poorly in terms of qualify of life and profit sharing with workers. The ruler in Iran was tired of their country and land being used to generate profits for foreign entities. The profit sharing with the company was renegotiated in the somewhere in the 1930s. (my memory is a bit spotty on the exact date.) In Narrator voice: The company did not abide by that agreement. During world war 2, the allied forces basically occupied Iran to secure the oil fields to keep supply chains intact during the war; so this would have been happening in the 1940s. This created a push for nationalizing the company and supply of oil, leading up to the 1950s and in 1951 is when Iran nationalized it under prime minister Mossadegh. There was lots of back and forth between the Brits and Iran, and threats of going to international court. The Shah was a bit more friendly to how business was being done between Iran and the Birts. This led to an attempt by the Shah to replace Mossadegh in 1952, and led to riots against the Shah and perceived foreign intervention. This failed. Mossadegh was pissed and eventually Mossadegh expelled the British embassy in October 1952. The brits cried to the USA, which led to the CIA to depose Mossadegh via the Shah, using underhanded bribery and corruption type shenanigans. This led to another 2 decades of Iran getting fucked by the brits and the USA, which eventually was a factor in the hostage crisis in 1979. Yeah, America was pissed about that. I was born in 1979 and have very early memories of Reagan saying shit like we won't negotiate with terrorists. When Iraq went to war with Iran, the US was on the books as supporting Iraq. There was an embargo preventing the US from selling weapons to Iran. That didn't stop the USA. They funneled weapons and training to contras in Nicaragua who would then supply Iran, simply because the USA didn't want Iran to be influenced by the Russia and communism. This is not taught in American public schools at all. American history curriculum usually ends with the civil rights movement. This was all stuff I had to learn on my own after hearing about it first hand from my best friend who lived through the Iraq/Iran war in the 80s. Yes, we are the baddies.
- lol i can say almost all of this for myself, and it wouldn't narrow it down where i'm from. fuck the us empire and its apologists.
- Have you considered being born to a wealthy white family in the West? I hear it's much easier
  
  Yeah, like, come on! Being born in the Middle East? Rookie mistake!
  
  Or anywhere in south America, or eastern Europe, or most of Asia.
  Fuck we really are the baddies
- I would try to guess your country but there are too many that the US has done this to
  
  Point 1 definitely has some 50+ countries in it, but point 2 almost immediately leads to Iran, who suffered a coup in the 1950s because the then president wanted to nationalize the oil reserves.
  Point 3 is the rise of Saddam. Point 4 is the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s and the Iran-Contra kerfuffle. Point 5 is the two invasions of Iraq by the USA, 1991 and 2003, the latter leading directly to point 6.
  
  My guess is iran
  
  OP said it was in Latin America tho
  
  No, the CIA was selling drugs in latin america....
  Iraq was invaded twice
  
  They did? Note also thought it was going to be a a south American country but none of it fit
- Yeah, but you're a foreigner, so your life doesn't' matter.
  
  worse, they'll say that he's privileged for not being a gay in trump's america, since that's perhaps the worst thing that could happen to a human being.
  
  This is too accurate.
- you don't think Harris would have done a better job than Trump?
  
  A better job at overthrowing their government and installing right wing dictators?
- Agreed. I'm sorry all the good people in this country are drowned out by the bad ones and their useful idiots.
  Bernie losing the nomination twice should really show everyone where this nation's priorities lie. They only care about money and enriching themselves. Everyone else is just a stepping stone to that goal.

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