5d ago

Wall Street is finally waking up to Trump’s tariff policy.

www.atlanticcouncil.org Wall Street is finally waking up to Trump’s tariff policy

Financial markets are beginning to react after the United States implemented tariffs on its three largest trading partners on Monday.

Mark down March 3, 2025. That was the day Wall Street finally realized that US President Donald Trump was serious about tariffs. On Monday, the S&P 500 fell nearly 2 percent as Trump confirmed what we at the Atlantic Council predicted in February—that the tariffs on Canada and Mexico were not mere threats, but actually likely to be implemented. The stock markets continued to fall on Tuesday as investors processed the news.

50 comments

- Good thing he’s a king.
  
  So, gallows than?
- This has already been debunked. Please stop spreading it or tag it as satire.
- Can you provide a link because there doesn't seem to be a reliable one.
  
  Because it's fake. It was debunked in the original thread discussing it.

Would be cool if they stood up back when he said he would put tariffs on everything
- They are in it for themselves. They aren’t standing up on shit but their wallets.
  
  but Kamala said she was going to tax billionaires! (horrifying)

I don’t think I’m gonna be wrong about this, but I bet that all of the points that were lost in the Dow Jones and the NASDAQ and the S&P 500 index funds will probably be recovered within the next couple of days because companies will remember that in order to keep all their money all they have to do is raise the prices on everything….
- Yeah, but let's consider what happens:
  Tariff applied
  Prices go up
  Supermarket trolleyfull becomes more expensive
  People have less money to buy other things
  Companies sell less
  Company profits fall
  Stock valuation drops
  GDP falls
  That's why the Dow Jones and S&P are lower - this shrinks company profits and US GDP.
  
  Well, it current. It looks like the Dow is rallying and is recovered almost everything it lost yesterday. …
  
  But the tariffs also pay the tax cuts that allow rich people to spend more and to invest more.
  We saw how the stock market had nothing to do with the actual economic situation during Covid. While all indicators went down, stocks still went up.
  As long as the core principal "US oligarchs get to profit of poorer people in the US and abroad" stays in place, probably the stock values will recover.
- Until no one can afford their stuff and drop it. Capitalism is hitting the inevitable point where infinite growth is impossible as it involves making the customers poorer which is not exactly great for business.
  
  the customers poorer which is not exactly great for business.
  Yes however have the poors tried not being poor?
- I think someone else here said it, but because he keeps making threats, then retracting them, then making them, then retracting them again, I wonder if it's basically insider trading being done by donvict and his oligarchs.
  
  That was a theory I saw floating on the news yesterday too
- Hell, they probably used this as a time to do some quick stock buybacks on the cheap.
  
  I almost feel like this was the intention. Bring the stocks down so his billionaire buddies can buy up more shares and then wait for the market to come back up. It's effectively stock market manipulation, but now it's protected because they can argue it's an "official act".
- Higher prices push down number of units sold... And push buyers outside of the US, to avoid the US products.
- I think what’s happening is that the finance people are finally realizing that the long term implications of this shit are going to be absolutely catastrophic. So sure, there’s probably gonna be a bunch of spikes as HFT farms spike demand. But medium- to long-term, shits fucked.
  
  I lurk on the bogleheads subreddit. Some of the people seem to have a fair bit of money they are trying to save and build with. I'm quite sure more than a few may be multi-millionaires. I've seen several threads where they are genuinely concerned about the possible destruction donvict and his dogebags are doing, and are planning.
  Things like - completely fucking the bond market for one. Destroying FDIC. Ending the dollar as a worldwide reserve currency.
- A lot of people are maxed out on their credit cards already. A mass CC default isn't too far off without massive the increases.
  
  I wouldn’t want this for the families, but I would love to see major credit card companies and banks, default and crash
  Not because I think it would fix the economy, but because I think they’re stupid for not seeing that high prices, high inflation, tax tariffs and then a lot of borrowing from the public is exactly what happened right before the big crashes in the 1920s
- It honestly is suspicious the lack of drop to a greater extent, almost like they're taking to DOGE cuts and federal firings and artificially keeping the market up with stock buy backs

His own class is going to betray him because he is the dumbest motherfucker alive. Republicans wont give a shit what he does with social policy but when he starts meddling in the economy and big business suffers, when their profits suffer, they get pissed. Conspiracy theory territory: if there is a super high secret gang of open market supporting puppeteers, they probably arent too happy with trump.
- You kidding? They just have to wait out the storm.
  Wait until everything is on fire, loot it all, then oust the conman and sell high.
  
  You can buy a house for cheap when a fire is threatening it, and hope to put out the fire before it gets destroyed. That's how you can profit from a fire.
  But if it's just buying the ashes, that's not actually a good investment strategy. The price has dropped because the thing truly did become less valuable.
  Too many people can't seem to see the difference between the first category and the second.
- His own class is going to betray him because he is the dumbest motherfucker alive.
  The billionaires will regret giving him power, because they're subtly giving up their own levers of influence over him.
  When you could buy a politician or an election, you held some sway over those politicians in those seats. When you pay lobbyists who will do the work of writing specific regulations that help you, and then have them try to get those regulations actually enacted, you had influence over how the government could wield power over you.
  But the Trump movement has been about consolidation of power in one man, who doesn't feel constrained by laws, or by other politicians. The billionaires are down to a single tool: trying to pay off one man, who doesn't keep his word.
  The question becomes, at what point does it go from money buying power, versus power buying money? It's a subtle distinction, but an important one for those who currently have money and who want to derive power from that.
  Trump and Elon want to make it so that they can singlehandedly destroy any business that doesn't bend the knee. At the same time, they want to be able to shape the rules in an arbitrary way to only help those they like, and hurt those they don't. They're not quite there yet, and I'd say that the rich still have some power independent of the government. But the plan for those in charge is to consolidate power as quickly as they can, to where that's no longer true.
  There's a substantial chance that this goes down the same way that scene in The Dark Knight Rises, where the financial backers who enabled Bane's movement insist that they should still have influence over that movement, once it takes power.
  Or if you actually want a historical parallel, the oligarchs who funded the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party, only to find themselves in concentration camps themselves.
- Trying to play devil's advocate to figure out where he could vaguely have support now and I'm coming up empty...
  Big business? He's screwing with their ability to offshore for cheap.
  Labor? He's against workers rights
  Military? He's constantly insulting them and handicapping them and screwing with all the suppliers and contractors too.
  Pacifists? He's simultaneously fomenting violence in Israel with us support while encouraging Russian violence by removing Ukraine support.
  Racists? Well he's certainly got the spirit, but as malicious as he is, in terms of number of people it's been a token show, and they are such dealing with as many brown people in their day to day lives as before.
  People who wanted lower prices? Obviously not helping them on any front.
  People who wanted lower taxes? Well that's not happening even in theory except people well into stuff figures that are losing way more than the tax breaks in other losses due to everything else going on.
  I can't think of a way anything he did improves things in any real way for any domestic interest, bad or good
- Nah the cultist don't really care about economy.
  
  Hard to care about something you lack the ability to understand. His core base is the stupid 30 percent. Vance is a good example of them.

Uh, duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhh!!
Maybe you should try listening to us peasants for once in your life, Wall Street.

I guess if he pisses off enough rich people, the odds of him getting a visit from the Mario Bros go up significantly.
And in the mean time... anything stronger than alcohol that won't make me fail a piss test?
- Shrooms
  
  Might be a bad idea in a time like this.

Un-fucking-real that it took them this long to figure it out
- They somehow still thought there was an adult in the room that would stop the worst if it for them. The plight of the peasants is beneath them; which puppet is presiding over which plot of land is unimportant; but if you threaten their high score (net worth), then they start paying attention.

Wall Street sleeps through alarms, wakes up late to tariffs—economic hangover incoming.
😺😺😺😺

50 comments