Kamala Harris tied with Green Party candidate Jill Stein among Muslim voters, damning poll reveals

The issue is much, much larger than what Israel is doing to Gaza.

If you fail to vote for Harris, you allow Trump to win.

If Trump wins:

He will encourage Israel to finish the genocide more quickly.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d

He will take Israel's policy of illegally invading Lebanon as a "security zone" and apply it to Mexico:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_Southern_Lebanon

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/

He will set up internment camps in the United States for immigrants and others classed as "undesirable":

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-does-not-rule-out-building-detention-camps-mass-deportations-2024-04-30/

He will purge the government of any and all opposition:

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2022/07/trump-endorsed-plan-purge-civil-service-rogue-bureaucrats/375028/

He wants to arrest journalists:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/politics/kash-patel-trump-administration/index.html

To be clear here, if Harris does not win, Trump will. Those are your two choices. You can choose to vote for Harris or you court disaster. There is no viable 3rd choice.

- Harris is not pro-Genocide. Trump is.
  “Let me be very clear: I am unequivocal and unwavering in my commitment to Israel’s defense and its ability to defend itself, and that’s not going to change,”
  vs.
  “They have to get it done. Get it over with and get it over with fast because we have to -- you have to get back to normalcy and peace.”
  One of those two people is going to be the next President.
  Harris believes, rightly, that Israel has the right to defend itself the same as any other country.
  The problem is, they haven't actually been engaging in defense for some time now. That's the fault with Israel and Bibi, not Harris.
  Trump believes Gaza needs to be exterminated fast and would bring the worst Israeli policies here.
- "I care about Palestinians so much that I'm willing to sacrifice their future well being for my poorly formed but intractable political ideals."
  Ok.
- You will however allow the most pro genocide voter to decide the election for you.
  Good for you.
- Who are you voting for, then?
- 200+ comments, account is less than a week old. Lol
There is no viable 3rd choice.
I'm choosing 3rd party anyway. Saying there's no viable third choice is just a way to keep the broken system intact.
The only reason a third choice isn’t viable is because we’ve been conditioned to believe it can’t be, and that’s exactly what the duopoly wants us to think.
Real change happens when we stop accepting the status quo and start supporting alternatives that challenge the power structure.
- Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body. If the forces of democracy take decisive, terroristic action against the reaction from the very beginning, the reactionary influence in the election will already have been destroyed.
  Karl Marx 1850

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- More like the bad faith actor king. Good job helping Republicans. You can feign ignorance but the proof is in the pudding.

Muslim voters are nevertheless poised to exact revenge on the VP at the ballot box

What a mature read of politics. The US is so fucked. Thinking along these lines Harris will get the final revenge when Trump wins and Israel actually completes the genocide because of it. Genius.

- do you believe democrats en masse...?
  I believe democrats en masse are keenly aware of the fact that civilian casualties are an intentional strategy of radical islam to discourage resolve, and unwilling to allow this strategy to remain viable anymore. More importantly, they are far more concerned with the internal consequences of losing to trump than about any foreign policy.
  ...that she would do so?
  No. For one, they are too small and polarizing a minority to make catering to their myopic demands a worthwhile gambit. Her campaign is also smart enough to call the bluff. There is no other option. Vote 3rd party, trump wins. Vote trump, he wins. His winning results in Muslim bans and bulk weapons shipments to Netanyahu with zero hesitation or restrictions.
  The time for platform adjusting shenanigans was before the DNC. Is it fair there were no primaries? No. Does that justify being stuck in a mindset that the primaries are still possible? Also no

Harris and Stein tied at 29%, with 11% of the cohort’s support going to Donald Trump

She's tied...for first place among Muslim voters. And Trump is getting almost 2/3rds less.

Yeah if anything the story is stein is stomping Trump
- And yet many Lemmys will just downvote anyway cuz, well, "third party bad."

Trump wants to nuke Gaza, pave over the remains and build one of his shitty hotels there. He would also deport Muslims and send those who don’t leave to internment camps. Explain to me how both sides are the same.

Trump's vile ideas are monstrous, no doubt, but let’s not pretend the Democrats are clean when they continue to fund and support military actions that devastate lives in Gaza and beyond.
Both sides perpetuate violence and oppression in their own ways—whether it's through blatant aggression or complicit support.
The difference lies in the packaging, not the substance.
It's my opinion that it really is the same system, two faces, both indifferent to the real suffering they cause.
You disagree, and I respect your right to do that. As I'm sure you respect mine.
- Who says the Dems are clean? Most leftists I know openly acknowledge she's so far from perfect but they'd still take her over Trump.
  Are you really telling me Trump and Harris are the exact same? Like give me a break. Why is Harris 3x more popular than Trump among Muslim voters?

Dear Muslims, here let me just give you a gun pointing straight back to you. Might as well just commit self suicide with this "revenge" vote you are throwing away.

Eh, Trump or Harris, in the end of the day it will be the same. Gaza will be wiped out but at least one won't come after you here in the US, but again eh. Sign your own death warrant.

:)

I bet you feel the same about women voting for Harris too. Right? Cuz she's totally the same as Trump right?

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