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Mongolia obliged to arrest Putin if he visits, International Criminal Court says

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Mongolian officials "have the obligation" to arrest Vladimir Putin if he visits the country next week, the International Criminal Court (ICC) has said.

The trip, expected to happen on Tuesday, will be the first time the Russian leader has visited an ICC member nation since the court ordered his arrest in March 2023.

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Mongolia obliged to arrest Putin if he visits, International Criminal Court says

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Mongolian officials "have the obligation" to arrest Vladimir Putin if he visits the country next week, the International Criminal Court (ICC) says

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Mongolia doesnt share a border with two belligerent superpowers. Two belligerent superpowers share a border with Mongolia.
- Superpowers? China and what else? You mean the country up north that can't finish their 3 day operation in Ukraine has no economical or geopolitical significance and no one put them in corner only because they have nukes?
  
  China and the second strongest army in Russia.
  
  China and Northern Mongolia?
- Good job pushing irrelevant pro-CCP propaganda into an article and comment section that had literally nothing to do with "America bad"
  
  Whataboutism at its finest!
  https://apnews.com/article/china-philippines-south-china-sea-ship-06e9fe0ef440aba09bc650d986d83377
  https://breakingdefense.com/2024/07/chinas-newest-military-base-is-up-and-running-and-us-officials-see-more-of-them-on-the-horizon/
  https://www.newsweek.com/china-overseas-military-bases-us-intelligence-1878183
  Do they call you idiots Tankies because your brains are full of irradiated steel?
  
  .ml is leaking again
  
  Porque no los dos
  
  Well they’re both bad and the world would be better off without those countries which have a high percentage of people liking authoritarian leaders.
  
  Uh-oh, sounds like it's time for another Yuan dynasty!
  
  Folks who clapped like seals at the formation of NAFTA and the EU are forever mad and extremely nationalist the moment Ulaanbaatar and Beijing start engaging in a little cross-border economic development. The Mongolian Central Corridor has the opportunity to dramatically improve the livelihoods of millions of people, and the western response is to bankroll domestic terrorists to blow that shit up.
  Of course, these are the same idiots and assholes who staunchly defend a 9/11 every day in the Gaza strip. The Online American is far and away the most propagandized creature on earth.
So disappointed to discover that BBC updated the headline and the article (and no more than six hours later)...
New headline: Ukraine calls on Mongolia to arrest Putin ahead of visit
An ICC spokesperson told the BBC that Mongolian officials "have the obligation" to abide by ICC regulations, but clarified that this did not necessarily mean an arrest had to take place.
The agreement says in some circumstances, states may be exempted from the obligation to carry out an arrest where they would be forced to "breach a treaty obligation" with another state or where it would violate "diplomatic immunity of a person or property of a third state".
- In other words, it's absolutely mandatory in all situations except for all the time everywhere.
  
  It's a vibe.
- Unrelated but wth is going on with the username and instance lol
  
  I run my own self-hosted single-user instance (edit: I should add that it's a pyfedi instance and you can learn more about it by visiting the flagship at piefed.social ), and I wanted to do so for free (or at least not spending any additional dollars on it - so not counting the old laptop that I bought ages ago and the internet I already pay for to, I don't know, do gmail and youtube since I already have those anyways) - so I ended up with this funky instance name since srv.us guarantees you a permanent name but you don't really get to choose it. I figured the username should probably match, so...
  
  All the good ones were taken.
It would be hard to do given Mongolia’s geographic situation of being next to two military superpowers
- You mean the great Mongolian Armed Forces bordering cowardly Russia? Russia physically could not invade Mongolia rn. China might but I doubt they would stir the pot that much over Putin.
- NCD on reddit had the idea of just putting him on a plane straight to USA, as there would be little to no possibility of China or Russia firing on a plane holding Putin.
  
  Why the USA they themselves are not committed to the process and are not where the ICC is based.
  Some Team America ideas.
I'm not going to blame Mongolia if they just ignore that. They do not have any ability to hold him.
- Would be the funniest twist this century though. Common n Mongols, have some humour!
- I'm having a hard time seeing why they couldn't. It'd be a dipl9matic disaster for them to simply go "yeah, we lied" and arrest him, but on the other hand, I don't see what russia could possibly do. Sure, medvedev will throw yhe usual hissyfit and threaten with invasion, but.... he and which army?
  
  Well China happens to really like Putin. And both countries have special forces that are more than capable of grabbing him back without a wider war. But Mongolia is also land locked and not super developed on it's own. So it's likely to suffer a complete air and ground blockade until they give either country enough to make them forget it happened.
  There is no upside to Mongolia doing this. They aren't strong enough to pull it off. And there are large consequences.
Not going to happen. Even if Mongolia were somehow immune to retaliation, Russia has like a 90% approval rating there.
- Russia physically cannot invade Mongolia rn, I doubt they could invade parts of Russia if they declared independence.
  
  Do it, states. Doooo eeeeet.
Time to send a sacrificial body double then.
- That would be hilarious if they arrested Putin but he just continued ruling the country from Moscow.
  
  Would be more funny if real Putin was arrested and body double would take over ruling as if nothint happened. Entire Russia just denying the existence of real Putin.
So will Mongolia lose its ICC rights when it doesn't, or will they just feign attempt to feign a "we tried to arrest him, but he got away damnit!"?
- You cant ask a country like mongolia to commit suicide just because.
  
  Then it can just leave as a member of the ICC if it cannot fulfill its obligations.
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