Is it worth upgrading from a Ryzen 7 3800X to a Ryzen 7 5700X3d?
Is it worth upgrading from a Ryzen 7 3800X to a Ryzen 7 5700X3d?
I was planning on picking up Cyberpunk a while ago but noticed I no longer reach the recommended system requirements since the last update. Is it worth upgrading from a Ryzen 7 3800X to a Ryzen 7 5700X3d? The 5700X3d seems like the best choice as it seems like a pretty decent jump in gaming performance without having to buy a new motherboard. And although the 5800X3d would be even better it’s ~£300 compared to ~£200 for the 5700X3d so doesn’t seem worth the price difference.
My gpu is an RTX2080 super so that would probably become the bottleneck, but I’m planning on upgrading that a bit later on if I upgrade the cpu first (not sure what to go with for that either yet, I’m still debating between Nvidia and AMD)
Games simply don't benefit enough for the cost of a new processor, let alone new motherboard and ram.
A new GPU will almost always the best bang for your buck improvement in games.
Then you should definitely go AMD. There is literally no reason not to unless you are already using cuda or ray tracing a ton. AMD is the best value for the money by far, has a MUCH better software interface (never thought I would say that), comparable or less driver issues than nvidia now, and it also works flawlessly on Linux, including full undervolting support (important on any GPU, but on AMD it is much easier).
That being said, if comparable performance GPUs are the same price in your region and you use windows, nvidia is also fine to grab.
Always undervolt your GPU. My 5700XT that ran on 200W before now maxes out at 150W and usually is at 140W with a 1% performance difference. That is like a 9C temp difference.
Yeah it seems like a CPU upgrade isn’t worth it at the moment. I’m still a little unconvinced over AMD vs Nvidia though. I don’t use ray tracing much as it seems to basically function as a lag mode, but I am expecting it to be much better on a 40 series card. No idea if I use cuda or not as I’m not really sure what it is. However DLSS seems to be a lot better than FSR, and I haven’t run into any issues on Linux with my current Nvidia GPU. They also seem to be roughly the same price for the equivalent models here in the UK so AMD don’t even have price going for them. I would basically be choosing AMD for the Linux compatibility despite still doing a lot of my gaming on Windows and not having any driver issues anyway
You definitely don't use CUDA then. That is hardware accelerated machine learning basically.
For you usecase then it doesn't make much of a difference. DLSS 3.0 is indeed better than FSR, but there are few games that use it i guess. DLSS 2.x and FSR are about on par with each other and FSR is enabled in all games. . Many/most of people don't even realize that DLSS/FSR is disabled when gaming as the vast vast majority of games don't even have it and and most don't think about it, I have no idea if you are in the same boat, but then it makes no sense to base a decision based off of features you don't use, in my opinion.
I'm in the same boat, with an 3700X. Upgrading my Vega 56 will be the first thing and I'm sure that the CPU will still be just fine for that. 1-2 years after the GPU, I'll probably invest in a new platform.
If you intend to keep this platform for a while longer then for sure grab a Vermeer x3d. I think you'll feel a pretty decent improvement in 1% and .1% lows
With that said, I'm not sure if cyberpunk in particular will benefit too much from this. If that's your primary motivator for upgrading, then maybe hold off until you want to move on to a DDR5 (or later) platform?
Yeah I can’t justify a whole new PC at the moment, and with a cpu and gpu upgrade to something like a 4070 I should be able to get several more years out of it.
Cyberpunk wasn’t my only reason for an upgrade but it was one of the main ones, I’d heard the newer dlc content is quite cpu intensive. However I’ve just checked the steam page and the recommended requirements seem to have gone up again to a 7800X3d
GPU improvement would do more for you.
Do you do a lot of VM work? Other stuff that's CPU heavy?
AMD open source drivers are great on linux tho I used nVidia for a long time with Fedora and had no issues
Not really, I do use VMs but not normally just 1 or 2 at a time, and I don’t think I’ve ever run into cpu issues with them (usually it’s disk usage if anything) Maybe the occasional bit of emulation but nothing that’s caused me any issues so far.
I’m still struggling between Nvidia and AMD on the gpu side, I’m looking at the 4070/ti/super vs the RX7800 XT, and the Nvidia cards seem to win in everything except VRAM and Linux compatibility. And there’s not much of a price difference between the standard 4070 and the RX7800 XT
No