Iphone 15

I'm out of the loop. What did they do now?
- Apple could potentially force users to use a proprietary apple USB c charger instead of any random one. This can be done via a lockout chip inside of the cable itself that only apple produces and is already done on apples lightning cable (super cheap sketchy cables may not charge or have features missing).
  Additionally the USB c port on iPhones will only run on USB 2.0 speeds, a standard from the year 2000 (yes, 23 years ago).
  
  I don't expect them to do that, much too easy to get slapped down on by the EU. I do expect that non-Apple/MFI chargers are USB 2.0, and I do expect are limited to slow charging and might come with a nasty-gram in the OS when using one. I lean against the nasty-gram as you can use some shit-ass lightning cables and iOS doesn't generally care, but the other two I would say are near certain. What will be real fucky is if they don't have a faster data transfer speed at all.
  
  Universal* Serial Bus
  
  Wow, what shitheads.
  
  What if i told you Im pretty sure most of your usb devices run on those “23 year old” speeds?
  
  USB 3.0 and 3.1 are jank and produce RFI, so using 2.0 is an excellent idea. USB 3.1 could cause interference with Bluetooth.
  Edit: I literally work with this stuff for a living, but downvote me... It's fine.
- Apple will have a USB-C connector (capable of fast charging tech), but will only support slow 5V charging (for most non-apple chargers?)...
  
  is this confirmed or just a rumor? can't find any sources atm
  
  This is wrong. The iPhone must comply with Power Delivery at 100W and must use USB-C. It's the EU reglementation. Now,the trick can be they don't follow this outside the EU.
  
  Honestly, I find this preferable. I only charge at night and a battery that charges slowly lasts longer.
- Step 1: Deliberately throttle USB C on non-pro models to convince users USB C is bad. Step 2: Release the iPhone 15. Step 3: iPhone 15 Sales plummet because of poor reviews. Step 3: iPhone 15 Sales plummet because of poor reviews.
  
  Step 4: Increase the price because die-hard fans will still buy it
  Step 5: profit

Context?
- Just stop buying iPhones, problem solved.
  
  It’s worth noting that the current lightning cable is also limited to usb 2.0 speeds. They’re not making the usb c version any slower than it already is.
  
  Not just expensive, they're also environmentally unsound! They use more power to charge, more plastic for casing. Hooray?
  
  EU has already warned them not to throttle charging and transfer speeds just because a cable isn’t MFI
  
  I don’t know about you, but I don’t honestly remember the last time I connected my phone to my computer to transfer data
  
  Apple uses the standard USB-PD standard for all existing wired USB-C charging, uses the QI standard for wireless, and directly contributed their magsafe technology to the next generation of the QI wireless standard, so there's no reason to think they will make iPhone wireless charging proprietary.
  
  Source?
  
  Wireless charging should be regulated. It’s a wasteful joke that burns more carbon by wasting electricity
- Changing their plug design with every new generation of products has created a lot of e-waste as the older plugs are no longer usable, as well as some countries have deemed this practice as a form of planned obsolescence which they have policies/laws against. So the EU basically told Apple that if their new products didn't switch to a universal standard plug design (currently being the usb-c), then they would not be allowed to sell them in Europe. I'm guessing Apple is now trying to pass this off as their idea.
  
  They don’t change it every generation. Apple has been using the lightning port since 2012.
  
  Changing their plug design with every new generation of products
  what are you talking about? They’ve used the same lightening connector for the past 10 generations.

Yeah if the cable ist USB-C to lightning.
- expired
  
  Apple would rather take a fine than complying tho.

Oh, cool. It's LG all over again.

I'm waiting for the bad faith at the keynote. It will be funny.

The irony is that I have a bunch of lightning cables because I’ve been using an iPhone with AirPods for years. So when I finally upgrade, a bunch of my old cables will end up as e-waste.
- or you could give them to someone who still uses an iPhone with a lightning connector. You could even sell them.
  
  Shhhhh, don't talk logic. You can only throw perfectly working stuff in the dump. Giving it ? What's next ? Become a communist scum ? Hell, No ! Selling it ? That would make apple poor shareholders sad....
  
  I could. But the irony still stands that by Apple being forced to change connectors I’m going to have to go out and buy new cables. Honestly, though, I agree with the EU, this is a change that Apple should have done sooner. They were one of the first computer companies to completely dump the old USB connector in their laptops for the space saving. I wish they would have moved to USB-C across the board at that point.
  From what I’ve heard, they were holding out to try to move from Lightning connectors to completely wireless charging with no ports.
- Well you buy apple products so you already had a bunch of e-waste
  
  Is that any different from any other company that sells electronics, except perhaps Fairphone?
- Hey, just like 30 pin cables.
- Apple also switched connectors. So apple is also evil and makes ewaste. Stupid arguments stab you in the foot.
- Why just waste them? If they still work, either sell them on for a few pennies or whatever their condition is, donate them to others who'd still use them or pass them out for free.Or, I know you can in the UK, not sure aboit other countries, but i imagine EU countries would have this, and Americas probably should, but just recycle them.
- If you think like this you could never chance a single thing. People coming from android will be able to use the same cables, people changing vice versa will also be able to use the same cables. People can use the old cables with old phones until they brake and they will brake sooner or later.

How many of you dweebs complaining about Apple “constantly changing connectors” and “making you buy proprietary cables” with every new phone realize that they’ve been using the same connector for over a DECADE now? I’m all for reducing e-waste, but come on. If you don’t like their stuff, don’t buy it.
- I bought a Samsung. Then I bought a one plus. Then I bought a pixel.
  Imagine if I had to throw out my charging cables every time I changed brands. Imagine if everyone acted like Apple. It would be incredibly degenerate.
  Also, everyone brings up micro USB, but those cables still find a ton of use in my home for all the different other devices that use it. I'm not gonna find an Xbox controller that uses lightning cables for example.
  
  My argument stands. The companies that don’t conform lose market share, because you don’t buy their products requiring proprietary accessories. Your example list of products exclude an iPhone, so they lost your business. The argument I’m hearing is that you feel the government should force a company to make their product nicer to transition to, or use. That is in the best interest of a company, however Apple has chosen a different path. It’s your job to let them fail or support their choices by giving them money. There are many people that use the Apple ecosystem and don’t really care what connector type is being used.
  
  “Imagine if everyone acted like Apple” uh. They did until usb c came out.