NY Times just casually dropped that the official U.S. intelligence assessment has always been that Putin didn't want to expand the Ukraine conflict beyond Ukraine

Even the US' intelligence apparatus is a bunch of Putin shills now

But seriously, no shit lmao. Did libs really think Putin was gonna try and pull an Ögedei Khan and try to take Europe?

Still not as embarrassing as admitting the Minsk agreements were all just to buy time for Ukraine.

The original narratives about Ukraine no longer matter, the only thing left in the collective consciousness is Ukraine is a democracy therefore the war is about "western values". The good thing is since then even a good part liberals don't care about that anymore, its impossible to manufacture a narrative that Ukraine is winning right now, at best they "resisting" evil Putler and Zelensky does nothing but beg for more aid.

No, it was always this way. We always knew this. The way the government is admitting things are is the same as what they've been saying all along. Your left-wing views always make you say paranoid stuff like this. This is not an unexpected departure from the official line. The only people who were trying to scare us about how Europe could be invaded next were misinformed marginal figures, not the actual authority figures who always had a reassuring firm grip and level gaze toward reality. If it were really a big change then someone would make a big deal about it, and I don't see anybody making a fuss.

The shit about world conqueror Putin reached my, decidedly non American lib parents. This shit is bananas

If you use an ounce of critical thinking it was always clear NATO wants a war with Russia, not the other way around.

Yeah, no shit. These pathetic vassals don’t care though, they’ll keep throwing money down the pit of “increased defense spending because NATO wants it”.

Yogothos post with 100+ comments, hell yeah

I can't wait for the NAFO crowd to call the pentagon russian shills

More like the Niu York Times

if i were a lemm.ee (لا سمح الله) and I saw this thread and the idiots that post here I would delete my account out of shame

Look. We HAVE to shoot up a grocery store in order to stop the Soviets. It’s for the greater good.

Nothing will change

Wait, but that would mean all the libs saying that Putin would invade everyone if he wins in Ukraine were brainwashed liars???

Breaking news! Circles are in fact circular!

I'm not trying to get flamed as a lib here, but there's a gulf of difference between "not wanting to expand the war" and "having no further ambition once the war is over"

No shit

unfortunately i don't believe that nato would ever stop pushing wars.