ACLU suspects warrantless surveillance in neo-Nazi’s prosecution
ACLU suspects warrantless surveillance in neo-Nazi’s prosecution
The ACLU is challenging Section 702 by joining the defense of a neo-Nazi accused of plotting to destroy Baltimore’s power grid.
I hate that groups like the ACLU have to defend nazi scum to protect my liberties. Better that the government not violate our rights in the first place, but in lieu of that, even nazi scum is subject to the same rights and due process as any other citizen. However, I wouldn’t mind if they got pantsed a couple of times by their lawyers.
The ACLU are savvy litigators and picked a client our Supreme Court might be sympathetic to
Well, on one-hand, fuck this asshole, who cares?
On the other hand, if this isn't challenged, it will happen more and more, and to anyone for any reason.
Exactly. It's like the saying about how we treat prisoners. Whatever we allow to happen to those lowest in standing is what will be allowed to happen to all of us eventually.
Slippery slope is indeed a very good justification for making sure nazis stay free. Fuck off
Making sure nazis have protected liberties is part of what makes us not nazis - but it doesn't guarantee asshats like that a platform or societal tolerance.
Whatever actions are taken should be within the law.
No. Nazis should not have protected liberties because they reject the social contract, therefore they should not be protected by it.
They should have protection of the law. That doesnt mean they dont deserve to be car bombed by the local socialist Redneck for shits and giggles. This is to ensure sympathic fuckwads dont cry foul or turn it on far less egregious groups.
This is an odd test case. Not only is the defendant unsympathetic, the circumstances seem to be exactly what section 702 was intended for.
Whatever information was obtained through FISA (if it was), wasn't used as evidence against this guy. So they can't even prove that the Nazi was subject to a FISA search, much less that it harmed him.
Exactly, it's just a bunch of hand-wringing libs upset that their Nazi buddies are suffering consequences for their actions. Nothing bad happened here, other than ACLU actively rooting for and supporting Nazi terrorists
ROFL! The ACLU is now “rooting for Nazi terrorists”?
Does this have anything to do with that nonsense you posted from 2017 about how the ACLU protected someone’s right to free speech even though they admittedly abhorred what they were saying?
Yeah… that’s called the 1st Amendment. And that prick has all the rights illustrated within it just as you do to say your dumb shit here.
Dude what the hell
I get a kick out of lawyers doing the right thing despite their convictions or moral objections.
Actually, I was just watching Philadelphia last night. That's the one where Tom Hanks is gay and has AIDS and Denzel has to defend him for getting fired even though he is morally opposed to "homosexuals" (the 'in' term back in the day). Obviously defending a gay and sick man for discrimination is entirely different from defending Nazis, but still, it's a tangible illustration of Blind Justice.
Best of luck, Nazi shitbag!
Don't compare me and my people to nazis. Go fuck yourself, I hope you get locked up and murdered by the scum you love defending. How about not getting a kick out of murderous cunts getting off scott free and being allowed to spread their hate and get me murdered?
This is literally a nazi who was planning on blowing up a power grid. You like seeing this cunt get defended? Go to hell you fascist fuck
Then the government should have gotten a fucking warrant so there wouldn't be any grounds to appeal.
You'll be real sorry the next time a Republican is in office and uses this as precedent to spy on and persecute anyone sympathetic to the LGBT community.
Removed, ad hominem. Everyone is entitled to a defense.
Hard cases make bad law. Make sure the Nazi's rights weren't infringed 😬
Legal precedent is important and he’s gonna rot regardless (not an endorsement of our prisons, he’ll likely have friends in there)
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In communications with a federal confidential informant, the pair allegedly planned to “coordinate to get multiple [substations] at the same time.” Clendaniel pleaded guilty to conspiring to damage or destroy electrical facilities in May of this year.
But in a court filing, the ACLU attorneys say Russell has “reason to believe” that the government “intercepted his communications” and subjected him to a warrantless “backdoor search” by querying the Section 702 databases.
And less than a month after that initial query, we disrupted that US person who, it turned out, had researched and identified critical infrastructure sites in the US and acquired the means to conduct an attack.” The defense’s motion to compel the federal government to provide notice of use of Section 702 surveillance of Russell includes both the Politico report and Wray’s speech as exhibits.
The ACLU’s response, filed this Monday, notes that the government “does not dispute that Mr. Russell was subject to warrantless surveillance under Section 702” but instead claims it has no legal obligation to turn over FISA notice in this instance.
Legislators’ attempts to rein in the controversial surveillance authority failed, and multiple amendments requiring the FBI to obtain warrants to search or access Americans’ communications under Section 702 were voted down.
“Especially as recently expanded and reauthorized by Congress, this spying authority could be further abused by a future administration against political opponents, protest movements, and civil society organizations, as well as racial and religious minorities, abortion providers, and LGBTQ people.”
The original article contains 915 words, the summary contains 246 words. Saved 73%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
I thought they'd have gotten better since the Unite the right really, but nope, still going to bat for literal fascists who would kill everyone in the ACLU and everyone else they defend if given the chance. They deserve the wall like every other Nazi sympathizing cunt