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China doesn't count because you can't trust whatever they report to be true.
An example would be their "China made" microchips for the new Huawei or their new laptops, that were supposed to be proof that China didn't need western chips, but then the chips say "Taiwan" for some reason, and you realize they were still using western or older chips, but lying about them being manufactured in China.
When it comes to trains, we've all seen the horribly photoshopped gifs of the trains running on their empty rails.
Look, it's the usual
”You can't trust anything China says, it's all lies!” liberal cope 
Holy shit this level of
is just sadRead post history lol
wait i replied to the wrong comment :(
You can google the two things I pointed out in my comment and see if they're true yourself. Or maybe you can't google it if you're in China, oof.
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When it comes to trains, we've all seen the horribly photoshopped gifs of the trains running on their empty rails.
Are you suggesting that China built a massive railroad network, but is lying about having trains?
Real "Lets fake the moon landing on the moon" hours.
Does this look real to you? Posted by a Chinese official.
Some of us have ridden China's HSR lmao
I take it you've ridden the maglev too, then.
Jokes aside, I'm sure the high speed rail actually exists, but I'm taking a stab at the legitimacy of the statements from any Chinese source, since they're well known to spout lies.
go look for Saddam's WMDs
Lul
I'm Chinese, and I am making a statement: parpol has not had sexual relations with minors.
Call me out for lying please.
I assume having sexual relations when I was a minor, with someone my own age counts, so that means your statement is technically false.
But to clarify a little. I have issues trusting the CCP and Chinese media, not Chinese people.
Honest question, do you not find yourself being chauvinistic when you dismiss all Chinese media as lies until proven true, but accept all western media as truth until proven lies?
Does that not increase the credibility of China/decrease the credibility of the west in your eyes, even a little?
Conversely, the west did lie about WMDs in Iraq, swaying public opinion so as to launch an illegal invasion that resulted in a million Iraqi casualties, or the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and that doesn't damage credibility? How do you resolve the cognitive dissonance in your head?
OK epsteinoid. You are a braindead NPC who gets all your information from youtubers. Your entire race is pedophilic and pathologically driven to slander others. I see no reason to trust anything coming from a white source.
Lul
cope harder.
*since they’re well known to spout lies according to western official, CIA sponsored thinktanks and western media.
What about the lies whestern media and western officials are well known to spout? Western media are infamous for lying about countries the US sees as rivals or ennemies, do these lies not make the narative about China at least a little bit suspicious to you?
I've been on the Wuhan->Guangzhou train and it was like 4 hours incl stops. It's roughly 1,000 KM (660 mi). Did the CPC somehow move the south coast of China inland northwards? I physically went from Wuhan airport to the ocean via train in less than 5.5 hours.
Like you're talking to the forum most likely to have visited China. It's not fucking North Korea, you can actually go there and get on the trains dipshit. Blanket dismissing all sources from China because some YouTubers told you to is just asking to be dunked on
Sorry to have to tell you this, but you're actually a fake gif made by the evil CCP.
China is using miniature black holes for folding space to hide their failing train system. Several high-ranking officials working on the "trains" were recently seen having been partially spaghettified, just real noodly-looking.
Using laowhy86 and serpentza as a source for anything China related
Lul
OK, here is the official post on extwitter by the Chinese official:
Holy crap you're right. How did I not see through all the CCP lies before now.
All of China's "economy" and "infrastructure" consists of photoshopped images that circulate the internet. Chinese people are so thoroughly propagandized that they don't realize that none of it is real.
It surely can't be that a boomer governmental worker reposts whatever he sees on wechat. It's the irrefutable proof of the nefarious CCP plan, which all 100 million members are privy to.
That appears to be real infrastructure with fake CGI trains. Why this was done is beyond me.
Wait are you serious? I thought this was a bit.
Woa! A promotional video containing CGI! This is something that litterally no institution or companie does!
The cars in car advertisement are almost always CGI and not the real thing, does that mean that Wolkswagens and Toyatas aren't real? No, of course it doesn't! That's stupid.
If you want to see the real thing, there are plenty of videos of China's high speed trains on youtube including of vloggers taking those trains, heck, you could go to the fucking country to see them with your own eyes.
If instead of searchin/doing any of that you prefer taking at face value an acount from racist shitheads who see no problems with digging up litteral human remains from unmarked graves that's a skill issue on your part.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
So you're just a full-blown hyper paranoid conspiracy theorist who thinks that everyone in China is just trying to dupe you into thinking they've built trains?
I'm sure they tried making a maglev. But I'm also sure they used a larger budget than reported, reached lower speeds than reported, and quietly swept under the rug any complaints from locals whoms living spaces were torn down to make room to build this. This is how it always goes.
You can literally watch videos of the Shanghai Maglev, on YouTube, right now. It connects the city to the airport, and Shanghai is a major business hub, westerners go there all the time.
complaints from locals whoms living spaces were torn down to make room to build this.
Do NOT Google Robert Moses. Biggest mistake of my life
Can I get any sources for your ravings?
Here's a source from the World Bank
Even the high priests of capital cannot ignore what are basic facts of infrastructure.
[citation needed]
Always funny to me how you guys burned in your mind that China is ontologically bad so hard that you just throw accusation of lying without any evidence. You just suppose shit and don't see any problem because to you China is a bad evil country is self evident and so anything that potentialy corroborate this "truth" has to be true.
hontologically
China is hontologically bad
More like honky-logically
"This is how it always goes (when we in the west do it, and there's no way those orientals could be better at anything than we superior Aryans)."
https://invidious.slipfox.xyz/watch?v=4-S7wqwgF1Q
You can just google shanghai maglev, it makes the journey in about 8 minutes, sometimes less.
I've done this before with other "china experts" who believed such silly things as that Winny The Pooh was banned in China, but they never let reality get in the way of their pre-conceived notions, or examined how they got those erroneous views.
Taiwan
Nauru is no longer on the list lol
but then the chips say "Taiwan" for some reason
Because Taiwan is the Republic of China you absolute galaxy brain
Taiwan is not China.
lol this dumbass doesn't even know ROC from PRC
just pathetically desperate to maintain their chauvinism
I would be fine with admitting that China is part of west Taiwan, rather than the opposite.
Here's a few more fun facts: the Pearl necklace failed, the skyline doesn't lie, the east sea belongs mainly to south east Asian countries, and painting your ground green doesn't fool anyone.
reciting
phrases like prayers to MammonCope is a synonym for true now, apparently, or do you offer any credible sources that disprove what I just said?
Don't worry, you can be honest here. I'm sure none of the little pinks in this thread will report you.
Every dumbass statement you made has been disproven. It seems you white NPCs are only capable of regurgitating the same tired catchphrases and insults. I'm sure it took a lot of effort for your two braincells to remember to regurgitate "little pink" from whatever propaganda slop from youtube you heard it from.
What statements exactly? That spraypainting mountains green and rolling out plastic leaves over barren cliffs isn't fooling anyone? Because it isn't. Or that the sea disputes China has with its neighbors are overwhelmingly judged as China trying to grab land that doesn't belong to them? Because no one is backing China on this one. Or that the Indian necklace of diamonds ended up surrounding the Chinese string of pearls? Because it did.
Couple things: the fake leaves is purely aesthetic, there'd be no need to fake it since China's actual afforestation efforts outstrips the rest of the world. It's not meant to fool anyone any more than Mount Rushmore is meant to fool people into thinking there are gigantic presidents roaming the US.
Oh and China's 9 dash line is inherited from your beloved ROC. As in in 1947, before the end of the civil war, the Republic of China claimed the majority of the south China sea as Chinese and the PRC inherited ROC territories as the de facto victors of the civil war. And even then it's smaller than Ming dynasty and Qing dynasty claims to the waters. The PRC is no more landgrabby than any former Chinese government. Do you know who China "grabbed" the Spratly islands from? France. Even if you see it as imperialism, it's way more defensible than France having ownership of the south China sea or Britain having the Falklands.
And you really wanna look into who coined the string of pearls claim: Booz Allen Hamilton, the company contracted to spy on Americans, the one that employed Edward Snowden, the one whose contract mysteriously increased from $2 million to $70 million in 2007. Their goal is to fearmonger Americans to increase military intelligence spending. You're falling hook, line and sinker for MIC propaganda. If India and China are such bitter rivals, ""border disputes"" wouldn't be solved with sticks and India wouldn't be in BRICS.
This is what we mean by cope: grasping at the least credible theories around because the YouTube algorithm gave you some China "experts" and you took their word as fact.
Indian necklace of diamonds ended up surrounding the Chinese string of pearls
What is this referencing?
This is referencing a hypothesis coined by Booz Allen Hamilton, an American military intelligence contractor. It hypothesized that China will try and secure its borders in the Indian Ocean with civilian infrastructure. This was in 2004 when China-Pakistan relations were improving, and was fearmongering that India would have it's maritime territories seized by China. Kind of moot now that India is in BRICS.
Booz Allen Hamilton also famously employed Edward Snowden at the time of the leaks. BAH were contractors for the NSA for the PRISM project. Also, in 2007, it was discovered their contract with the department of homeland security went from $2 million USD to $70 million USD, a 3500% increase, and BAH's parent companies made considerable donations to John McCain's presidential campaign (which I think is a conflict of interest when your subsidiary is a government contractor)
Lol you're so hopeless there's nothing left for you to say
Everyone who disagrees with me is a Chinese bot in China 
You're going through all the most unoriginal bullshit pretty fast, next your
ass is probably going to say Winnie the Pooh or Tiananmen Square.
"The next thing you'll say is ' minus 1000 social credit points'
" minus 1000 ... "
You can take the redditor out of reddit, but you can't take the reddit out of the redditor. Many such cases 😔
thoughts on the ROC's claims to Outer Mongolia?
Literally not even true.
This is a decades long malicious disinformation campaign from Chinese ops. It is verifiably, 100% untrue and hasn't been true for a long time.
In 1993 the Legislative Yuan asked the Judicial Yuan to clarify what the official territory of the ROC is. Interpretation No. 328 ruled that the legislative intent of the term “inherent/existing” was specifically to avoid setting down precise boundaries, since the areas controlled by the ROC at the time were continually shifting with the tides of the Chinese Civil War. The interpretation thus held that the phrase is political question that cannot be assigned any fixed legal definition.
They officially declared Mongolia to be an independent country in 2002.
and you expect me to believe some photoshopped document over years of historical proof that Taiwan consider Ulaanbaatar rightful Taiwanese clay?
okay sure thing. next you'll say something as ridiculous as Arunachal Pradesh is India.
I'm calling hbomberguy right now, this guy's going down for sure
A Reddit link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same location on Teddit and Libreddit, which are Reddit frontends that protect your privacy.
"Historical proof" They officially declared Mongolia independent in 2002, what else is there to say? Do you want another official statement?
As for India, I have no clue about their stance. India is irrelevant to this topic, and you're throwing whataboutism.
And yes, I copied some of the text from a Reddit post. It doesn't invalidate what I said.
- whataboutism
based
As for India, I have no clue about their stance. India is irrelevant to this topic,
Just to clarify, the ROC claim some of India (and I think Bhutan and a few other countries), I think to a greater extent than China does.
lol you get banned from lemmy finally randint?
What does the C in ROC stand for?
- West Taiwan
Tell that to Taiwan, who call themselves the Republic of China and consider themselves Chinese
The only people who think Taiwan is a separate and wholly independent country are dipshit Redditors
You can't be so stupid that you don't understand that Taiwan historically claims itself to be China
"The inscrutable and devious oriental cannot be trusted because of their duplicitous nature"
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I was wondering why this post had so many replies, and lo and behold it's because of another one of these fucking ChatGPT instances.
Every fucking time.
It really does read like they asked a chatbot "help! The commies are making me think, give me excuses to ignore the things they're saying!"
Can I use this for a post where people ask me shit and I respond by asking a language model this prompt (modified to include their message)?
You can try. I don't think it would be any worse than the usual drivel libs produce.
Sounds good, can I credit you for the
memeidea?Nah, it's fine either way, I'm not fussed.
Have they built any rails or trains at all? Who can say
