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Is Boeing in big trouble? World's largest aerospace firm faces 10 more whistleblowers after sudden death of two
  • From what is currently known about the two whistleblowers neither were particularly at higher risk of suicide or MRSA. The person who died of MRSA was healthy and active with no history of hospitalization whatsoever. Close friends of the first whistleblower claim that suicide was very unlike him, and his previous statement of "if anything happens, it wasn't suicide" strengthens that.

    There are other commenters here speculating that being a whistleblower makes you at higher risk of suicide, but there are no official statistics on that, so it is at most speculation, therefore I need to use general statistics.

    All probabilistic models and datasets eventually get replaced with more accurate ones, but that doesn't discredit them until then.

  • Is Boeing in big trouble? World's largest aerospace firm faces 10 more whistleblowers after sudden death of two
  • You don’t compare the stats to the population in its entirety

    You do for disease and suicide as it can happen to literally anyone.

    If working for a specific company or being a whistleblower affects those statistics, the company should be held responsible anyway.

  • Is Boeing in big trouble? World's largest aerospace firm faces 10 more whistleblowers after sudden death of two
  • The chance of killing youself after saying you're not killing yourself negates any raised suicide rate of whistleblowers, and when the chance of foulplay is vastly higher than it not being foulplay, it is no longer a conspiracy theory. Having two whistleblowers from the same case suddenly die is extremely unlikely.

    I didn't make up any accusations. I stated how it is vastly more likely they were murdered than that they weren't if I removed any circumstantial information. Adding circumstantial information very likely sways it even further into murder territory, and not the opposite as you claim.

    And the worst part? This will do exactly what every other nutbrain conspiracy theory does. It provides incredibly easy to refute accusations and then undermines anyone who actually cares about how much boeing knowingly allowed. Because all the people who will point out exactly what these whistleblowers fought to get out there? They are dragged down by your ranting and raving.

    This is such a ridiculous argument when your argument essentially is shilling for a company and trying to downplay how suspicious this whole thing is. By easily refutable you must mean "maybe a meteor killed both" levels of stars aligning.

    But let's focus on the actual accusations rather than make up some because we want a really juicy true crime podcast?

    Them being murdered automatically becomes an actual accusation.

    Assassinations are not a rare occurrence, but you're making it sound like fairy tale material.

  • Is Boeing in big trouble? World's largest aerospace firm faces 10 more whistleblowers after sudden death of two
  • We are talking in the context of with 12 whistleblowers on the same case. There are more cases with single wistleblowers, but also, the fewer whistleblowers per case, the lower the chance of one of them dying of suicide or MRSA.

    For example, if there had only been 2 whistleblowers in total in this case, not 12, the chance of both dying from suicide and MRSA would be 0.00014 * 0.000062 = 0.00000000868 (0.000000868%).

  • Is Boeing in big trouble? World's largest aerospace firm faces 10 more whistleblowers after sudden death of two
  • It means that there is a 99.998% chance that they were murdered, misdiagnosed or are not really dead.

    There haven't even been 1000 whistleblowers cases in recorded history, and the fact that the two deaths happened means the most likely cause by far was murder

  • Is Boeing in big trouble? World's largest aerospace firm faces 10 more whistleblowers after sudden death of two
  • Even looking at it from a statistical perspective, these are low chances.

    Let's do the numbers.

    Suicide rate is 14 / 100,000 (0.00014).

    Deaths from MRSA in the US in 2017 was 20,000 / 325,100,000 (0.000062).

    The chance of either happening to one person is 0.000202 (0.02%). The chance of it happening to 2/12 whistleblowers in the same year is:

    1-((1−(14÷100,000))×(1−(20,000÷325,100,000)))^6 =

    0.00120845658 (0.12%),

    1 out of 826 cases with 12 whistleblowers would have this outcome.

  • Is Boeing in big trouble? World's largest aerospace firm faces 10 more whistleblowers after sudden death of two
  • Guy who said "If I die, it is not suicide" dies of suicide right before important court date, and perfectly healthy and active person suddenly succumbs to rare antibiotics-resistant infection.

    They just happened to work at the same company and die right before they could testify on the same thing.

    This not being foul play is less likely than a global conspiracy.

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  • I hear this very often, but has this ever been proven? People are not exactly going to stop eating or paying rent which already eats more than half of people's income. I could see gambling and entertainment become more stale, but I'm not sure how big of a problem this is.

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