Get rid of the guy

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The problem I have with this thinking is that people think Trump caused this and that the fascist problem will go away if he does.
He is a symptom. We need to fix the cause. I'm not saying I have all the answers, but going back to 'the old way of solving problems' and not changing anything will just lead to more fascists.
- People are literally infected with his BS. Removing the main disease gives others a fighting chance to provide treatment with a possible cure.
  
  I think it’s more that they see Trump as a confirmation of their world view.
  They feel scared and threatened, they seek evidence to confirm their feelings, and Trump provides them with the reassuring narrative that affirms their world view.
  If people could get help dealing with the things that they’re actually afraid of struggling with they wouldn’t be as engaged with fear mongering.
  
  Many people agree that Trump is the head of the snake. The amount of complete lies is remarkable. I'm on the side that believes, somewhat, that the cult spell will greatly diminish if he were completely out of the picture.
  
  The Trump cult will dissipate after he's gone. But the conservative virus will absolutely still be there. They will leech on to the next Republican scum that rises through the ranks. And now that Trump has opened Pandora's box, all the scum in that party will rise to the occasion. Trump has proven that the presidency can be a massive cash cow now. People with lots and lots of money and no morals will use that wealth to run another disgusting propaganda campaign, it'll fool stupid Americans, and we'll have Trump copycats in the Oval Office again.
  Conservatives cannot do anything but vote Republican. It is in their programming.
  
  I won't say Trump is the worst case scenario, however. You have to be just the right amount of fucking stupid to fuck things up as much as he has.
  Any smarter, and on the first day of his first term he would have just summoned the CIA and told them about the blackmail that Putin has. Any smarter, and he'd be able to see how alienating our allies hurts him, even if he is fully self-serving.
  Any dumber and he'd be drooling on himself, which makes it hard to get elected. He has to be at least as smart as a monkey so that he can pavlov up the right phrases that make the audience clap.
  
  It is often necessary to deal with the obvious symptoms before you can start treating the cause.
- Either way, the fix is going to involve getting rid of Trump.
- The cure is ranked choice voting and repealing citizens united, oh and kick Rupert Murdocks bitch ass "news" network out of the country.
  
  Repealing Citizens United for sure. Ranked choice has no place in the American system.
  
  Wrong. It's already implemented in several places, and it is having a positive effect.
  First past the post is the poison that got us here in the first place.
  
  For what reason?
  
  Yeah, if you want to keep the two party system first past the post, we're gonna keep getting what we have now.
- Yup.
  This is just the beginning. Trump opened doors that are permanently open now. Other bad actors will walk through them. They know now, definitively, that Americans are largely stupid and that pretty basic propaganda works on them. And our government is configured in such a shitty way that any real change requires such a large majority in Congress that we're not going to fix all the things necessary to prevent this all from happening again.
  I hope you're ready for permanent decline, because that's the future for America, short of a revolution that completely rewrites our laws regarding politics. And it'll be written in a shit ton of blood.
  
  "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
  — Abraham Lincoln
  "You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."
  — George W. Bush
  
  Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, well.... Can't get fooled again.
  Also George W. Bush
- Still I got down voted lots for suggesting merely banning Afd might not be the, eh, total solution to the problem. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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