Navy officer lost job for secretly installing internet on warship to check social media
Navy officer lost job for secretly installing internet on warship to check social media
A group of Navy sailors secretly used Starlink to check sports scores, social media and watch movies. They hid it from rank-and-file.
A U.S. Navy chief who wanted the internet so she and other enlisted officers could scroll social media, check sports scores and watch movies while deployed had an unauthorized Starlink satellite dish installed on a warship and lied to her commanding officer to keep it secret, according to investigators.
Internet access is restricted while a ship is underway to maintain bandwidth for military operations and to protect against cybersecurity threats.
The Navy quietly relieved Grisel Marrero, a command senior chief of the littoral combat ship USS Manchester, in August or September 2023, and released information on parts of the investigation this week.
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I'd be curious to see the dish install. It's hard to imagine how someone would think it'd go unnoticed, on a warship, no less.
Ship officers heard the scuttlebutt about STINKY, of course, and they began asking questions and doing inspections, but they never found the concealed device. On August 18, though, a civilian worker from the Naval Information Warfare Center was installing an authorized SpaceX "Starshield" device and came across the unauthorized SpaceX device hidden on the weatherdeck.
Heh.
Why the F were they broadcasting the SSID on a "secret" wifi network? That's just asking to get caught. If they had hidden the SSID most people would never have known about it.
You're expecting intelligence and competence from these people? The ones who thought it would be a good idea to violate a half dozen regulations to even install it in the first place?
Supposedly she was an information and IT specialist... Setting the thing up to not broadcast its SSID should have been one of the first things they thought of. But probably she didn't know it could be done, which again speaks to her overall incompetence.
Extra fun is that the head chief never gave anyone else the password. She logged into each of the other chiefs devices.
She could have 100% also typed in the ssid at the time. It would have taken almost no extra effort.
You can view WiFi passwords for saved networks on pretty much every OS. There's no reason to be secretive about entering WiFi passwords, at least to the people whose devices you're entering the password on.
Indeed, I can share it from my phone via QR or just see the password plain.
She should have used eap-tls..
You think someone stupid enough to make all the above mistakes would be savvy enough to build PKI and a RADIUS server? You're giving her too much credit.
Again, forgot the /s 😂
The worker still would have found it.
You can still see a WiFi network (and tell that it is unique from others) even when it’s not broadcasting SSID. It’s just one less piece of information available when someone is trying to access it.
Security through obscurity isn’t security, but it’ll keep neighborhood kids from trying to guess the password from across the street. On a warship? They’d have still seen it.
Yes but not as blatant as STINKY
Everyone with a smartphone would see STINKY and immediately get suspicious, while only techs would have noticed the hidden network and investigated on that
On a warship? They’d have still seen it.
It took 6 months to discover, and even then it was by techs who went to physically install different hardware saw the dish hardware mounted to the ship. That's the real WTF here, how do these ships not have some kind of passive RF scanning/rogue AP detection??
It was seen by regular enlisted people who saw the network on their phones and left comment sheets asking WTF it was, but the person in question snatched up the papers before they got to the officers. If they had hidden the SSID, nobody would have seen it because nobody scans for hidden SSIDs on their phones.
scuttlebutt
Do US Navy ships even have a scuttlebutt anymore?
Yes, they all have drinking fountains. Absolutely no one at all calls them scuttlebutts though.
Scuttlebutt in this case refers to gossip, which is also why the water fountains are called scuttlebutt - people would gossip around them
Other way round. Scuttlebutt was the name for the casks of freshwater and then for the fountain. Sometime between those two eras it came to be the word for gossip because of the association with gossip being told around the scuttlebutt.
Sometimes, the internet is lovely
It’s the original water cooler talk. Probably weren’t talking about tv shows, though
The commentator asked if ships had "a scuttlebutt" anymore. Im well aware it's the term for gossip, but since gossip isn't an object, I assumed they asking about the drinking fountains.
Ships do still have them.
Oh I'm not trying to correct you I just have less than 0 social awareness and saw a word with a funny history so I shared my knowledge on it lol
No problem mate. Text can be a bit opaque at times, but it's still a joy to be able to talk to so many people about so many things.
Ugh, Elon continues to have the absolute most inane sense of humor on the planet. I'm not sure if it's him or Zuck who are more clearly aliens wearing human skin
It's Zuck. Elon is just a perpetual 13yo. TBH, he's not entirely unlike Peter Pan (from the book).
To be fair, I also try to be closer to 13yo than my actual age, I think that makes life more fun. But I'm also not the CEO of multiple large organizations, and I would adjust how I behave if I was in that role.
I tough they changed the name to stinky for the lulz but it was the default name imposed by the childbrain. Amazing opsec.
Multiple people were involved, and it was probably mounted in a location where other people were unlikely to know that it was out of place.
Yeah, same. It's not like there were windows they could point it out of, so it would have to be exposed and somehow disguised.
Lol, in college, some guy on my floor wasn't happy with the dorm's cable TV because it didn't have NFL Sunday Ticket and brought his DirecTV dish/receiver from home. His room was facing the right way, so he was able to set the dish up in the room next to the window. This sortof reminds me of that but without the national security implications.
