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That's holocaust exceptionalism though. And Israel uses this to justify their genocide. That person didn't make up these words or meanings. They just looked them up. Words don't just mean things in a specific year only and then never again anything else.

Let's call it Holocaust 2.0 though? Is that okay? We can slap a year on it too if you like.

I vote to name this one a holocaust too :) after all it has a lot in common, especially being killed en masse. But boooooo, we must have the EXACT SAME GAS CHAMBERS.

How is it hard to take a stand against a genocide after Germany itself made one happen?

Yes they have industrialized it. But you seem to have some pedantic definition of industrialized mass murder that somehow only applies to Jews. Got it. ;)

I think there probably were some? Pretty sure some released hostages described abuse and sexual assault.

I hate Hamas, as a Palestinian, but Hamas fighters are not demons... they are not angels either.

Yeah you can say that if you like, and you are probably correct in technical terms, but why does it that make it not possible to claim other genocides share a lot with the holocaust? Like the racism and rise in fascism and the legitimization of mass murder, etc... all the hunger and thirst and dying are akin to the holocaust. Being trapped in an open air prison is only slightly less worse than being in a concentration camp.

Keep in mind it's always possible that they do this partly for PR. But at least they were transparent, even if they did in to look good. After all, next to Israel, anyone would look good.

Maybe in the way you define it, it does, but not in the way I see I being used.

How would I be feeling anti-Semitism? I think not funding a genocide and taking. a strong human rights stance is easy and doable.

Lol sure go ahead and educate me you very smart German 😉

Does it though? Seems like it produces a weird emotional response and lots of hot air. Guilt doesn't seem healthy nor useful nor effective in stoping future genocides.

Otherwise we would have seen a better response from the German government who should have felt guilty enough about the holocaust to prevent one from happening in Gaza. Instead, they pledge support to Israel. Cool. Very "guilty" indeed.

Yep still fits Israel. They engineered it. They used AI to do it and look like they are not to blame. They systematically do it. All Israeli economy is now being spent on getting and fitting weapons that will tear innocent civilians into literal bits.

It's not even enough for some people to hear holocaust survivors compare it to the holocaust. The idea of holocaust exceptionalism is now being used by Israel to justify a genocide, so excuse me for not jumping on this wagon. Palestinians are also being killed for merely being Palestinians just like the Jews. It's an ongoing holocaust.

Israel has literally done this though.

By all means, it's a Palestinian holocaust.

I downvoted just because of your opening sentence. The closing part t seems like pedantic bullshit. The holocaust is not exceptional. It's not any more or less special than any genocide.

Imagine if we stopped Nazi Germany after they killed 40k and before they got to 17 million (yes, the holocaust has many non Jewish victims too, 6 million is sadly an understatement).

I am sure the holocaust was also a "pretty strong claim" during the actual holocaust.

Why fluttering horror is chaotically flying into my way?

That's why women live 10 years longer on average. God made it saw. Man dies, woman raises grandkids then dies. /s

I seriously think this is a bad way to go about life, generalizing in general. Makes you see things in black and white. I realize this in itself is a generalization but I think you get the point.

On some level I like to believe many people think of it as a disqualifying issue but recognize that this is a bad time and a bad system to disqualify anyone.

That is entirely the fault of the faulty democratic system. Voters like to think they have the power but they don't have much in America. They can't even all swing to a third candidate and vote for them.

Yeah sure but my point is again: you cannot generalize the party as a whole at this time. You can't just call any difference in opinion within the party as a "personal stand". It's not personal, it's a political statement.