Yeah, right. Zelensky won’t be able to “terrorize” Ukrainians by resisting an imperialist invasion

Oh yeah, because it's Zelensky who is resisting this "imperialist invasion", right? It's him, his family, his friends who are dying in the meatgrinder.
Oh wait, no it is not, he is flying around the world giving speeches about freedom, democracy and all that stuff, all while Ukrainians are imprisoned in the country and kidnapped from the streets and sent to die.

and Putin will turn the entire country into a concentration camp

Tell me more about those concentration camps. Tell me about concentration camps in Crimea? Tell me about the ones in Melitopol? Tell me, how Ukrainians who are on liberated territories are forced to stay there, how they are not free to leave at any moment (in contrast to those who are on Ukraine controlled territories)? I would love to know more about it.

It just shows me auto-generated Russian subtitles

Turn on auto-translate.

Seems like they still want to fight.

People are literally trying to escape the country by rivers/mountains, with some dying there, they don't want to fight.
People are afraid from leaving their homes, because they might be sent to the meatgrinder, they don't want to fight.

It doesn't show English as available subtitles for me.

At least on the PC version you should be able to turn on auto-generated ones.

Would also be helpful to know who these guys are and whatnot.

Svitan, ex Colonel of AFU. He is extremely pro-Ukrainian in general, but even he admits that current government is anti-Ukrainian, and turned Pokrovsk into a concentration camp.

Ukrainians in general.

Ukrainians (at least those whom Zelensky's regime considers good cannon fodder) are imprisoned in Ukraine, and are kidnapped from the streets by ТЦК ("recruitment officers"). They don't want to fight.

I don't know what that is

Well, you can listen (or rather read English subtitles) here about what it is: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7AXSB_WnYV0

I was just saying that that's why they're still fighting the invader. Can't

Who are they? The people that are mass imprisoned, either trying to escape the country or afraid leaving their homes because they are afraid of being kidnapped by ТЦК?? They are not fucking fighting, they are being forced to to the front lines by Zelensky's regime.

Ukrainians don't want to be subjugated by Russia though.

Don't want to have Zelensky's concentration camps either.

All I want to know is whether you're getting paid for this or it's just a hobby for you.

You see, for you this war is funny tiktok videos of evil ruzkies being droned. For me, this war is regularly talking with my friends and family who are still stuck in the west sponsored prison Ukraine with prison warden Zelensky. And constantly hearing that either somebody they know was killed, or kidnapped by ТЦК. It's not my hobby, I fucking hate politics. But if I persuade at least one person to stop supporting this shit then it's worth it.

Oh, also what it'll take for you to go away and never come back.

The war ending.

Guys, I'm absolutely serious, I'm not joking!

I'd very much like to know if something that I wrote is false! I'd hate being the one who spreads misinformation!

Please, I'm asking you, I'm fucking begging you - just tell me what is it? I'm not only going to delete any misinformation that I might have accidentally posted in this thread, I'm also going to apologize for posting it!

If you know that something I said is misinformation, and you don't disprove it - you are not doing anyone a favour, as now not only people (me included) might believe this misinformation, they might also think that when you accuse someone of misinformation you simply mean that you dislike what they say....

That's an incredibly stupid argument.

What else are you going to justify with "but it's the law!" argument?

People getting death sentences for rejecting Islam in Saudi Arabia?

People being thrown in jails for being gay in Uganda?

And don't get me started on what was "the law" in Germany less than a century ago..

Yeah, the only bad thing about Zelensky's concentration camps is that it's not written in the law, otherwise it would be all good and fine...

You are human trash for sticking up for the aggressors here, you absolute piece of shit.

Said guy who supports Ukrainian concentration camps.. 🤷

Sure, I will "get my misinformation the F out of here" as soon as you tell me what exactly is misinformation in my comment? :)

Why should the president of an invaded country have to negotiate with the invaders?

To save lives? And land (the sooner the negotiations start the more land there will be left for Ukraine. If the peace deal was signed at the very beginning, none of the land captured after 2022 would be lost)? Obviously Zelensky doesn't care about that, as long as he's pocketing those sweet sweet billions from USA..

They can leave and then it's all over.

But they aren't leaving, are they?

Putins been throwing prisoners on the front line.

So funny that you mentioned it :) There was so much coverage about Putin doing this, and very little when Zelensky started doing it.

He is notorious for locking up any vocal dissenter.....

And so is Zelensky. He disbanded every party he didn't like, as a matter of fact he is way more authoritarian dictator than Putin - even if you consider Russia's elections rigged, Zelensky won't hold any elections at all.

sooooo how are you not including him in this equation?

Feel free to include him.

It's just mind blowing for me how much Zelensky terrorizes millions of people, and he is still considered a good guy. I guess it's easy to glorify Hitler when you are not the one in Auschwitz.

Very telling that your only assassination recommendation was zelensky and not putin.

Because the last time I checked, it's Zelensky who for the whole duration of the conflict refuses any negotiation, not Putin. It's Zelensky who turned Ukraine into a mass prison. It's Zelensky whose regime kidnaps people on the streets and sends them to die.

Followed up by only if trump wins? The only thing trump will do is shut off support to Ukraine

That's your opinion and nothing more than that. He promised to end the war by forcing both parties to negotiate. But even if he "shuts off support to Ukraine" - this will be the best thing for Ukrainians that happened in the last 3 years. Without western support, Zelensky won't be able to terrorize Ukrainians anymore.

Turn on English subtitles here and enjoy an ex colonel of AFU (generally an extremely pro-Ukrainian guy btw if you watch his other videos, you can't claim this being a Russian propaganda ;-) ) talking about current anti-Ukrainian Ukrainian government turning Pokrovsk (and actually the rest of the country too) into a concentration camp: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7AXSB_WnYV0

Yeah, both Ukrainians and Russians will continue dying, hundreds of thousands if not millions of people :(

I just hope it will end sooner rather than later, although I don't see a chance of this happening unless somebody assassinates Zelensky or if USA elects Trump and he will keep his wording on ending it.

No one that matters cares about what either of those 3 countries has to say.

Right, I'm sorry, silly me, I forgot that people outside of North America (and maybe Europe and a few more countries) don't matter (I'm not sure if we can even call them people).

Ukraine will continue to be supported by the west

Yeah, this one is unfortunately true, the west will continue holding Ukrainians hostage in the mass prison that is Ukraine now and kidnapping them from the streets to fight their proxy war. I can only hope that this won't last much longer :(

I've got a peace plan. Russia leaves Ukraine the fuck alone instead of invading, yeah? This world is too fucken much.

Well, this doesn't look like a realistic peace plan.

Jamecia backs New Zeland-Madagascar peace plan for Ukraine! Who cares!

Oh right, OP probably forgot that only USA can have a say on the matter of international politics.
This post should immediately be removed and we need to go back to parroting "the whole world supports whatever USA supports".

Well, as a Ukrainian, I also hope so, but unironically.
Because if my hometown will get conquered by "hostile force" people will finally be able to leave, and I will be able to visit it and leave it afterwards.

Nah probably not, but he'll be stopped at Kursk just like the last time :)

protecting Ukraine

So, turning Ukraine into a mass prison that people are desperatly trying to escape, where people are kidnapped on the streets and sent to die on the frontlines? Can they somehow opt-out of this protection? Yeah, didn't think so, obviously you know what's better for other people.

No rational person could think he intends to do anything but hand over Ukraine to Russia.

Obviously it wouldn't happen, just the current front lines would become the new borders.

But even your bogeyman "hand over Ukraine to Russia" is still orders of magnitudes better for Ukrainians than the current situation.

Zelensky's defenders trying to paint it as a success because, however heavy Ukraine's losses, they are justified since Russia's were even heavier.

The entire conflict as seen by the west described in one sentence.

"Yes we turned the country into a mass prison and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians died or got wounded - but more Russians died so it's a success".