It's the Chionthar river; it's explicitly stated in the original demo. Sorry, that came across as short! We see a mention of it in the demo; Larian notes that if we had a boat we could take the river all the way to BG.
The location of the nautiloid crash site and the grove have been bugging us for some time, so we decided to take it upon ourselves to figure out where exactly, we start. The inner line on the image, where it intersects the Chionthar, is our estimate.
Supporting evidence:
In the gameplay demo, available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9hU6UJXpc, Larian references the crash site as "200 miles from Baldur's Gate." However, 200 miles from BG intersects Elturel, suggesting that "as the crow flies" is not right. Instead, we used string to measure out 200 miles by river.
The tieflings in the Grove mention being "a ten-day" away from the Gate. #dnd characters move approximately 24 miles a day. We assume they round up a bit, account for difficult terrain on parts of the trail, and the slower pace of children. They also likely estimate from their (former) home of Elturel versus the relatively unfamiliar Grove.
Blighted Village / Moonhaven
The Blighted Village (Moonhaven) is recorded as being on the edge of Elturgard. While Elturgard likely extends out quite a ways on paper, they are not likely regularly patrolling more than a day out.
Additionally, goblin raiders on the grove do not carry many supplies, suggesting that they can raid and return "home" in less than a day.
Some maps place the Grove much closer to Elturel. However, we believe that even with their recent return from Avernus, they'd have sent scouts to investigate the crash of the nautiloid if they'd seen it. Based on the altitude of the ship when it began its descent, our placement puts it below their line of sight.
The tiefling refugees would have put enough distance between Elturel and themselves to avoid harassment, but they were laden with children. A day's journey, if that was the edge of Elturel's patrols, makes sense to us.
Placing the grove further west puts it too close to Baldur's Gate, in our opinion, as the travel times would no longer make sense. #dnd#dungeonsanddragons
That the ego of most presidential candidates won't allow them to seriously contemplate standing aside doesn't mean that there arent better options.
Arguably, Clinton standing aside in 2016 might have prevented Trump. Alas, the ego of both her and the party elites would not have allowed it. So thanks for Trump I guess, DNC.
If Trump beats Biden, the loss is on both the idiots who love Trump and those in power in the DNC who refuse to embrace alternatives to their Chosen Few.
Might do, but we've tried that before. Its a bit oof for an app trying to compete with enterprise tools. I'd much rather see email work flawlessly v. adding drive etc.
I get that. Libertarians have a bad habit of downplaying economic hardship by saying that markets will solve themselves. Maybe there's a world in which that might work, but it isn't this one.
I do think that some progressive influencers know that the DNC is much closer to the GOP on social issues. Attacking libertarians is, in my opinion, a calculated lie designed to distract from that fact.
Just a random note: Most proper libertarians (not those weird tea party fucks) make Democrats look positively authoritarian on social issues. Economics, no, but social? Absolutely.
And that's the problem I have. If the DNC is willing to suppress their own members, why should I encourage that behavior by doing as I"m told because they're too blind or too arrogant to listen? Trump is the worst. But he's a product of a broken system that democrats are all too happy to perpetuate.
If Trump wins, I blame his fascist followers. But I would be lying if I said that I didn't also blame the DNC for colluding with the GOP in the first place.
I'm registered independent so I don't get a say. I can dig into the options, but last time I might have been onboard with Yang; he seemed sincere. Sanders, though he has issues, would have been a much better choice as well.
If the party elite are blocking meaningful representation within, that's a problem.
My logic: Democrats hold all of the cards. They are not required to run Biden and they have plenty of time to find a candidate that appeals to progressives outside of their core. If they choose to push forward with a mediocre candidate who is currently polling poorly and the worst possible person gets elected, they are responsible for the loss.
He's polling neck and neck with Trump, some polls have him trailing in key states. It's early, granted, but his support of Israel's approach to Palestine suggests that many progressives are at best uncomfortable with him.
Primaries are still coming up, no? Why not push for someone better? You still end up in the same place if you're unsuccessful.
Along the same lines, fielding Biden knowing that he is polling quite low against Trump is making it more likely that Trump wins. There are 49 million registered Democrats. There are almost certainly qualified, principled, charismatic people in that group that would both energize the core and appeal to progressives, independents, and swing voters.
If the Democrats' stubborn pride allows a Trump victory, then we should lay the responsibility at the feet of those who were best positioned to provide a viable candidate who could win.
Democrats and the DNC hold all of the power when it comes to who they field for the election. If their current chosen is polling poorly, if he's not energizing the people that the DNC needs to win, then they have the power to nominate someone who does. If they're willing to risk Trump getting in by fielding the candidate anyway, then they're indicating their willingness to put stubborn pride and the need for control over doing what they know needs to be done.
The Democrats hold all of the cards when it comes to who to run. If Trump gets in because they cling to stubborn pride, then they have only have themselves to blame.
As someone who is neither centrist nor enamored of either party, it isn't ever "both sides are the same." It's "these two groups actively work together to prevent others from sharing the platform' and 'of all of the possible candidates, these are their best?'
Biden is better than Trump, point blank. Regardless, if Biden is polling poorly, then the Democrats should set aside their pride and pick a candidate that appeals to independents and proper progressives. The Democratic base will vote for whoever the DNC fields, so the real challenge is convincing those swing voters.
Attempting to shame people into voting for a problematic candidate is what got us Trump in the first place. Perhaps its time to listen to those seeking actual change.
And the Democrats vote for the Democratic candidate no matter what. That they have a better candidate is obvious, but pretending that the core would deviate from voting as they're told is not supported by their past behavior.
I've been browsing older Forgotten Realms sourcebooks and the love that the authors put into those is amazing. It hurts to see D&D and the worlds I grew up loving destroyed by a soulless entity that cares only about profit.
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Oh, so he only wanted to be a dictator for the FIRST day. Got it, sir.
That anyone supports this fetid fecal stain is beyond my comprehension.