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Join Us in Building Europe Pub: Community Builders and Moderators Wanted!

Dear European enthusiasts,

We're excited to grow Europe Pub and need your help to make it thrive! We're looking for passionate individuals to join us as community builders and moderators.

What we need:

  1. Community builders to breathe life into our existing communities
  2. Moderators for country-specific communities who speak the native languages

Why native-speaking moderators are crucial: Europe's beauty lies in its linguistic diversity. We want to replicate this diversity in our country-specific communities. Our goal is to ensure that every European can participate in discussions using their native language. This approach will make Europe Pub truly inclusive and representative of our continent's rich tapestry of languages and cultures.

This is your chance to contribute to the fediverse movement and create a truly European social network. Let's break free from centralized American social media and build something that represents our diverse continent.

Whether you're passionate about European culture, politics, or simply want to connect with fellow Europeans, we'd love to have you on board. No technical expertise required – just enthusiasm, a love for Europe, and fluency in your native European language!

If you're interested in helping shape Europe Pub, please comment below or send me a message.

Let's work together to create a vibrant, inclusive space! 🇪🇺

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  • Hello,

    Copy pasting what I put in another post on !BuyFromEU@lemm.ee

    My personal stance on this is that

    If rules, moderation policies and admin policies are similar, there should only be one community on a single topic while we have a userbase below 100k

    This allows for !politics@lemmy.world and !politics@hexbear.net to coexist, as there is a reason for them to (different moderation policies). It's similar for !climate@slrpnk.net and !climatehope@lemmy.world, as those communities have different principles and perspectives on their topic.

    This suggests to consolidate communities like !movies@lemmy.world and !movies@lemm.ee

    Another recent example is

    These three communities have similar rules, similar moderation and admin policies. They should be consolidated. And I know this is a very controversial topic, but I made a longer post recently on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com for people interested.

    In summary, my main argument is that

    • even though subscribers can potentially subscribe to all communities on a topic
    • posters are only going to post to one community, because they want the conversation to happen with the most people in one place, which is not the case if you crosspost as the comments gets splintered across the different communities

    To take a recent example

    As a member of both communities, I find it a pain to have two similar communities even more so when both post the exact same content because it creates more noise in my feed and because it forces me to waste my time and energy deciding where I will read said duplicated content and maybe post a comment. The solution is obvious: I will unsubscribe from one (for the time being, I still follow the two communities).

    https://jlai.lu/post/16318139/13038429

    There is a natural tendency of "one community emerges as the main one" on several topics

    If one community does not emerge as the main one, it's usually because two or more regular posters maintain both communities active by posting to their preferred community.

    So, my suggestions are to consolidate similar communities. This single decision will not make this platform similar to Reddit. On Reddit, you had no way to complain about power tripping mods, there were no public modlogs, and discourse criticizing the mods or the admins would get silenced.

    Here, we have !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com, and recent examples have shown that the community can actually resist power tripping: https://feddit.org/post/7025680/4263481.

    If the mods of the consolidated community start to power trip, document this on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com and reorganize on the alternative communities. If not, stay on that one community, to foster more active conversations and posts.

    That's the theory we encourage on !fedigrow@lemm.ee, feel free to join us there to discuss this further.

    • Open to discussion on this.

      I see it like that:

      Consolidation leads to centralization, and centralization creates power structures that go against the core principles of the Fediverse. If too many users concentrate in a single community, it gives disproportionate influence to a small group of admins and moderators. If that community’s instance goes down (as we saw with feddit.de) or if those in charge abuse their power, the entire structure can be destabilized. That’s precisely the kind of problem the Fediverse was built to avoid.

      The idea of migrating communities when moderation becomes problematic sounds good in theory, but in practice, it rarely works, especially as the network scales up. It's also cumbersome. People don’t want to uproot and start over repeatedly, and large communities don’t just "move" smoothly. Instead, they tend to fracture, lose engagement, or remain stuck under poor leadership.

      it creates more noise in my feed

      I get that, but this feels like a problem that should be solved at the platform level rather than by consolidating communities. People should be able to subscribe to multiple similar communities across different instances, and the feed algorithm should be able to detect and bundle similar posts across these communities. However, it should not decide which content is "best". It should simply organize the feed more efficiently without interfering with visibility.

      In the end, this is the ongoing dilemma of decentralization: Do we prioritize distribution of power, or do we focus on ease of use? There’s no perfect answer, but we should aim for a balance rather than rushing to consolidate.

      • Thank you for your comment

        The idea of migrating communities when moderation becomes problematic sounds good in theory, but in practice, it rarely works, especially as the network scales up. It’s also cumbersome. People don’t want to uproot and start over repeatedly, and large communities don’t just “move” smoothly. Instead, they tend to fracture, lose engagement, or remain stuck under poor leadership.

        People left !moviesandtv@lemm.ee after the power tripping: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/29606682. !showsandmovies@lemm.ee became the most active community

        !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone is also another example: https://feddit.org/post/7025680/4263481

        get that, but this feels like a problem that should be solved at the platform level rather than by consolidating communities. People should be able to subscribe to multiple similar communities across different instances, and the feed algorithm should be able to detect and bundle similar posts across these communities. However, it should not decide which content is “best”. It should simply organize the feed more efficiently without interfering with visibility.

        This is not going to happen any time soon for Lemmy, and even though Piefed has feeds, the issue stays the same: if a question about European luggage is listed on 3 different communities, people are not going to copy paste their answers in the 3 communities, leading to discussion splintering

        In the end, this is the ongoing dilemma of decentralization: Do we prioritize distribution of power, or do we focus on ease of use? There’s no perfect answer, but we should aim for a balance rather than rushing to consolidate.

        I am in favor of having one community, !buyeuropean@feddit.uk , due to the good track record of the instance admins.

        Should the mods start power tripping, people can organize on !europe@feddit.org

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