take your phone to a protest
take your phone to a protest
hee hee hoo hoo you should definitely bring the self-surveillance device that is registered in your name, covered in cameras, and reports its location at all times to a legally dubious event
great plan
the fear is not realistic tbh. the police can arrest you any time they want and there's nothing stopping them. and if you actively organize, then they're already tracking you regardless
This is kinda true but not everyone who attends a protest is actively organizing. If you bring friends that aren't as engaged in politics as you to the protests, tell them not to bring their phones. If you aren't in a party, don't bring your phone. Don't take risks for no reason.
Yeah tbh I feel like the left reeeeally has a problem with kneecapping itself in the name of operational security.
dw, people irl ime don't do this, it's just the chronically online
taking a capital surveillance device with you while doing things capital wouldnt approve of is dumb.
i don't know any leftists irl who worries about any of this in excess.
nah, constant eyes on us will make organizing much much harder.
people will understand that when they decide we became a real problem. they have been rushing to expand surveillance in the last decade for a reason.
Bring someone elseโs phone to the protest
Not to mention the police have these systems to track you forever if they tag your phones.
always put salt in your eyes
the revolution will be tiktokโd.
Build your own phone with tin cans and twine, become untraceable
Get yourself a Faraday Bag to keep your phone in. That way you can keep it on you but ensure it's offline. I have no recommendations on which, you'll have to test them. I have never used one personally, I'm just aware they exist.
If youโre paranoid enough, your phone could track you through inertial navigation with all of the accelerometers it has.
How will people know the protest is happening unless you stream it to Facebook with your front facing camera?
The OPSEC idea behind this isnt worried about being tracked in real time by the police at the protest, the highest risk is it being used in court after the fact to prove you where there, and nearby illegal stuff happening; thats why you leave it at home, not just bring it turned off, they can still use that to say 'you where here'
bingo. they just can't sift through data in real time outside of specific situations just yet. especially in a big protest or something.
but they can pull up the records of who was there at the time from the isp and persecute them individually.
think jan 6 riots, but they would be way less lenient to not-fascists.
surveillance will be used to fuck us hard if we ever become a problem. i wouldnt be surprised if they are keeping tabs on a lot of us, remember the snowden leaks and how they keep an eye on the planet, directly from the servers.
only trust selfhosted and completely open source apps, and even then they can exploit almost every device with cyber weapons if they need to track anyone specific. we make fun of ai but its an excellent tool to sift through data to keep us in check. we have to come u**p with and use good alternatives.
we let them fucking build this panopticon around us and we will pay the price. its not gonna be like 100yrs ago when workers could just scurry off into the void, they have facial recognition everywhere now. i know many here might not understand the gravity of surveillance but we havent seen the start of it.
they will 100% be very prepared to target anyone challenging the status quo in an unprecedented way.
I can't tell if people in this thread are taking part in the bit or if they're serious.
We are so fucked
Pretty sure most of everyone already does that.
I mean, in airplane mode with Bluetooth and WiFi turned off you should be ok. It's nice to have to take a photo or two. Also nice to have in case of emergency. But without GrapheneOS or a similar OS running on the device, it being on is a big oversight for sure.
Even then it's iffy. Many phones don't really shut down when they're shut down, and if you really want to be paranoid even with the radios turned off they might still be receiving or something and phone home when you turn the on again.
But, still, at this point we're mostly small fish.
As a general note, make sure you either don't take photos of faces, tattoos, or anything identifiable, or just don't take pictures at all and leave that to the journos.
Yes, it's really best just not to bring your phone at all but if you must, like for emergencies, or you need it beforehand and then for some reason have no place to stash it then a Faraday container can come in very handy. It's also not 100% fool proof but if used right will prevent any signals from outside reaching your phone or any signals from your phone going out (as mentioned, you can not trust airplane mode.) There are DIY guides online for making your own.
GOS now has a panic pin you can set to wipe your phone if its typed in.
I agree, but one problem I have is that I need to be able to message or call someone. Especially if I'm arrested I would like a phone to call a lawyer. Also I want to document the protest online so people who follow me know what's going on. (Of course I wouldn't film anything illegal, or give away people's identities) Althought I can do those things without my own phone.