RealTesla @lemmy.world dragontamer @lemmy.world 1 mo. ago

Tesla Owners Get Only 64% Of EPA Range After Just Three Years: Study (Updated)

insideevs.com /news/720899/tesla-64-epa-max-range/

The big issue is that Model 3 and Model Y only have 73%ish of the range when brand new, and then after 3 years that drops down to ~64%ish of its advertised range.

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As someone who has been low key looking at used model 3-s it's good to see the battery degradation stopping/slowing after a few years. I've heard new batteries degrade a bit and then settle in but haven't actually seen the data for it. What would the actual range be here at 60-70%?
- Just a word of warning to you. There's only two reasons anyone is getting rid of a Tesla. They're having major service problems and the warranty is up, or the warranty is up and they're trading before they have major service issues.
  
  You'll be a lot better off with a Kia/Hyundai, and you won't have to wait a month for service appointments.
  
  I will say, the prices a suspiciously low on some of these. 3-4 year old cars 20-30k miles for basically half price compared to new. Configuration doesn't seem to make much of a difference either. And there seems to be tons of them too.
- They claim 340 miles on a model 3, which in real life testing goes as low as 190 miles. If you now subtract another 60% it looks really bleak in the worst case scenario
  
  Well the 60% would be from the 340 miles, no? Another ~10% from the 190
I knew I wasn’t crazy for holding off on EVs. I always said I want a car that claims to get 400-500 miles of range, because only then might I stand a chance to actually get the advertised 250-300.

I have a PHEV and I’ll stick with it for some time to come. Batteries are improving and there are some different materials that will hit the market in the next couple of years - including lithium with a silicon anode, which will drop charge times to 5-10 minutes and give 20% more capacity in the same size battery as a graphite anode.
- For what i need a car now a days, 500km per charge would be plenty for me, and i wouldn't even care about fast charging and stuff. So now you only really get 300ish km per charge in the real world. Okay that would still be enough for me. But then it also gets worse and worse with each charge... Idk, maybe it's not as much as a problem in the real world, but in my head i'm not sure if i could deal with that. Imagine your range goes down every time you fill up your car with gas, i don't think people would be fine with that. A gas car loses power over the years, but i think losing range is so much worse, especially considering a new battery is as expensive as a new car. And i really actually like EV's

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