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You said Reagan cheered. Yet, that isn’t at all what happened.
Not they didn’t say it was ok they died. They said it was contained to the gay population. We didn’t have any good treatments for it at the time. You’re trying to twist things into something that was not said.
It was originally called grid for because they thought it was a gay disease.
Faucci was heavily involved and he’s the one who rejected most the experimental treatment options.
Why I’m glad he retired. The man has done enough damage.
The aids epidemic was a scary time to grow up but I don’t once remember anyone cheering over it. People were scared. People that caught hiv were Ostracized from society.
Faucci was heavily involved and he’s the one who rejected most the experimental treatment options.
Why I’m glad he retired. The man has done enough damage.
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The aids epidemic was a scary time to grow up but I don’t once remember anyone cheering over it. People were scared. People that caught hiv were Ostracized from society
My guy prominent people were cheering it as late as the 1990s. But considering what you've said so far, I have my doubts that you're here in good faith.
It’s very well know.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/05/20/fauci-aids-nih-coronavirus/
There are many other articles about him and HIV/AiDS.
You can argue he did the right thing but often I feel he didn’t. If someone is dying, I personally have no qualms letting them have access to experimental drugs.
Fauci was one of the younger scientists working on AIDS research at NIAID at the time, and Staley said ACT UP members began to get to know him. “All the older scientists thought we were crazy,” he said. “But Fauci wanted to hear what we had to say.”
“We liked Tony personally. He’s a brilliant scientist, a brilliant fighter of epidemics,” Staley said.
“I was becoming friends with some of them, like Peter Staley and Mark Harrington,” Fauci agreed. “I felt very strongly that we needed to get them into the planning process because they weren’t always right, but they had very, very good input.”
Fauci attended an ACT UP meeting in October 1989. After that, some of the group’s leaders on its Treatment and Data Committee would meet the NIAID chief and his deputy, Jim Hill, for dinner at Hill’s townhouse on Capitol Hill.
Fauci said he urged the scientific community and his own staff to include ACT UP members in the drug trial process. “I was pushing and pulling these people and screaming, ‘Hey, we have to deal with them,’ ” he said. “I was in a difficult position because I was trying to convince the establishment that ACT UP had something to offer.”
... did you even read your own fucking source
Wrong article.
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/how-dr-fauci-handled-aids-crisis-jexipk/26361/
Yes, later he changed his tune but in the beginning his was a road block to care.
What a coincidence, another source that doesn't say anything even close to what you're claiming it does.
We're done here. Thanks for outing yourself.
And here is another.
It said it in the first section.
Dr. Fauci’s response to the AIDS crisis in the 1980s was first widely criticized by LGBTQIA+ activists
God, did you read anything past that lmfao? Do you know what the word "first" means?
However, in later years he became a widely respected ally, eventually developing lifelong friendships with the activists.
Dumbass
Yes, I did. Does it change anything? No, the question is what he did at the time. Dumbass.
Do you take everything hyper-literally, or only when you don't like what other people say?
Not they didn’t say it was ok they died. They said it was contained to the gay population. We didn’t have any good treatments for it at the time. You’re trying to twist things into something that was not said.
THEY LAUGHED AT THEIR DEATHS!
They made no effort towards intervention, and they withheld information that would have allowed LGBTQ+ people to understand what was happening, which could have been done long before treatment options were available. They have blood on their hands.
You say Reagan knew many gay people. I hope they spat in his face while he was alive, and pissed on his grave after he was gone.
You say Reagan knew many gay people.
His buddy Roy Cohn died of AIDS and he didn't say a word. Turned his back on him the moment it was public knowledge that he was gay.
Anybody who claims Reagan ever gave a single wet shit about gay people is a fucking liar.
When someone tells a lie, yes I call them out on it. What you are stating didn’t happen as you claim. You don’t think making up stories is an issue?
Read about rock Hudson and Reagan. It’s a sad story
Dude, I'm literally Autistic and I understand nuance and symbolic wording better than you
Pedantry just makes people not like you
I’m pretty well liked. People with integrity are often received well in the real word.
If you want civility to return to the discussion, you should consider removing your comments from it.
My comments are civil and relevant.
Worthless, and a waste of everyone's time.
I get it. You’d rather lie for attention than tell the truth.
I prefer honest conversations. People are nuanced but what you’re claiming never happened. It just didn’t. At least not to my knowledge.
If you have to make a story up to make someone look bad then it says a lot about you as a person and nothing about the other person
I get it. You’d rather lie for attention than tell the truth.
I showed my evidence. So you can take your accusations and choke on them. Do everybody a favour.
I prefer honest conversations. People are nuanced but what you’re claiming never happened. It just didn’t. At least not to my knowledge.
No, you don't prefer honest conversations, you are fooling nobody. You prefer asking bad-faith questions and trying to pretend that witholding assistance and laughing at gay people dying is somehow different to supporting their deaths.
Nobody is buying what you are trying to sell.
If you have to make a story up to make someone look bad then it says a lot about you as a person and nothing about the other person
If you have to pretend to not understand basic English to accuse other people of lying, it suggests either a severe lack of either scruples or intellectual capacity on your part. So which is it?
Bite me.
Your evidence doesn’t back your claim. It doesn’t show anyone much less Regan cheering.
That is your claim and it’s false.
You could say he was indifferent or possible denied care which would be true but cheering is a distinct act which you claim but isn’t true.
Yet, you repeat it because you want to dehumanize Reagan. It’s something I don’t do. It’s tasteless. It speak to who you are as a person.
He was clearly more than "indifferent" if he laughed at it.
I'm just going to counter your pedantry with three of the literal definitions for cheering
cheer
2 of 2
verb
cheered; cheering; cheers2
: to grow or be cheerful : rejoice
—usually used with up
Cheer up! Things could be worse.transitive verb
1
a
: to make glad or happy
—usually used with up
clowns who cheer up children in hospitalsHe laughed at their deaths. That effectively falls under three of the definitions well enough
There it is! I was waiting for the mask to slip!