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You said Regan cheered. Where did Reagan cheer?
You’re citing an asinine statement that his press secretary said but not cheering from Reagan or a statement from Reagan.
Can you cite where Reagan cheered ?
Pedantic little wanker, aren't you?
Not at all. It’s a common myth that people recite but can never backup. I don’t remember Reagan ever cheering about gay people dying.
He also didn’t go out of his way to help gay people even though he was friends with several. Most were not openly gay but it wasn’t a secret. Working in Hollywood, Reagan knew many.
excuse me until i receive photographic evidence of reagan literally cumming in his pants as a white house aide whispers in his ear about deaths that he's caused i'm not going to accept any possibility that he was anti lgbt
The two are not the same.
In the 1980’s most people were anti gay or intolerant.
That doesn’t mean they cheered the death of people.
bro i'm agreeing with you what's your problem
quite clearly no cum-in-pants photo means he couldn't possibly be against the lgbts
Why do you keep moving you bar around? You claim he cheered. Yet turn into a man child because you know you’re lying.
So now you move the bar to he didn’t like gay people. No shit Sherlock. Few people did in the 1980’s. Even fewer openly.
That isn’t the same as cheering deaths.
I get you want to dehumanize people but it’s disgusting behavior.
my guy i'm in your corner
i don't understand nuance or context either
why are you fighting me?
I showed you evidence that his administration's official position was that it was fine for LGBTQ+ people to die of AIDS. Quotes from his press secretary, the official who speaks on the administration's behalf. Audio recordings of the room, which included Reagan, erupting into laughter when talking about gay people dying.
I gave you more than enough evidence that he supported the death of LGBTQ+ people.
Your argument is insufferably pedantic.
No 'sis-sis-boom-rah' from Reagan, 0/10, evidence insufficient /s
You said Reagan cheered. Yet, that isn’t at all what happened.
Not they didn’t say it was ok they died. They said it was contained to the gay population. We didn’t have any good treatments for it at the time. You’re trying to twist things into something that was not said.
It was originally called grid for because they thought it was a gay disease.
Faucci was heavily involved and he’s the one who rejected most the experimental treatment options.
Why I’m glad he retired. The man has done enough damage.
The aids epidemic was a scary time to grow up but I don’t once remember anyone cheering over it. People were scared. People that caught hiv were Ostracized from society.
Faucci was heavily involved and he’s the one who rejected most the experimental treatment options.
Why I’m glad he retired. The man has done enough damage.
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The aids epidemic was a scary time to grow up but I don’t once remember anyone cheering over it. People were scared. People that caught hiv were Ostracized from society
My guy prominent people were cheering it as late as the 1990s. But considering what you've said so far, I have my doubts that you're here in good faith.
It’s very well know.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/05/20/fauci-aids-nih-coronavirus/
There are many other articles about him and HIV/AiDS.
You can argue he did the right thing but often I feel he didn’t. If someone is dying, I personally have no qualms letting them have access to experimental drugs.
Fauci was one of the younger scientists working on AIDS research at NIAID at the time, and Staley said ACT UP members began to get to know him. “All the older scientists thought we were crazy,” he said. “But Fauci wanted to hear what we had to say.”
“We liked Tony personally. He’s a brilliant scientist, a brilliant fighter of epidemics,” Staley said.
“I was becoming friends with some of them, like Peter Staley and Mark Harrington,” Fauci agreed. “I felt very strongly that we needed to get them into the planning process because they weren’t always right, but they had very, very good input.”
Fauci attended an ACT UP meeting in October 1989. After that, some of the group’s leaders on its Treatment and Data Committee would meet the NIAID chief and his deputy, Jim Hill, for dinner at Hill’s townhouse on Capitol Hill.
Fauci said he urged the scientific community and his own staff to include ACT UP members in the drug trial process. “I was pushing and pulling these people and screaming, ‘Hey, we have to deal with them,’ ” he said. “I was in a difficult position because I was trying to convince the establishment that ACT UP had something to offer.”
... did you even read your own fucking source
Wrong article.
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/how-dr-fauci-handled-aids-crisis-jexipk/26361/
Yes, later he changed his tune but in the beginning his was a road block to care.
What a coincidence, another source that doesn't say anything even close to what you're claiming it does.
We're done here. Thanks for outing yourself.
And here is another.
Do you take everything hyper-literally, or only when you don't like what other people say?
Not they didn’t say it was ok they died. They said it was contained to the gay population. We didn’t have any good treatments for it at the time. You’re trying to twist things into something that was not said.
THEY LAUGHED AT THEIR DEATHS!
They made no effort towards intervention, and they withheld information that would have allowed LGBTQ+ people to understand what was happening, which could have been done long before treatment options were available. They have blood on their hands.
You say Reagan knew many gay people. I hope they spat in his face while he was alive, and pissed on his grave after he was gone.
You say Reagan knew many gay people.
His buddy Roy Cohn died of AIDS and he didn't say a word. Turned his back on him the moment it was public knowledge that he was gay.
Anybody who claims Reagan ever gave a single wet shit about gay people is a fucking liar.
When someone tells a lie, yes I call them out on it. What you are stating didn’t happen as you claim. You don’t think making up stories is an issue?
Read about rock Hudson and Reagan. It’s a sad story
Dude, I'm literally Autistic and I understand nuance and symbolic wording better than you
Pedantry just makes people not like you
I’m pretty well liked. People with integrity are often received well in the real word.
If you want civility to return to the discussion, you should consider removing your comments from it.
My comments are civil and relevant.
Worthless, and a waste of everyone's time.
I get it. You’d rather lie for attention than tell the truth.
I prefer honest conversations. People are nuanced but what you’re claiming never happened. It just didn’t. At least not to my knowledge.
If you have to make a story up to make someone look bad then it says a lot about you as a person and nothing about the other person
There it is! I was waiting for the mask to slip!