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Biden left without an easy solution as campus protests heat up

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Biden left without an easy solution as campus protests heat up

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Stop funding Israel’s genocide seems like an easy sensible option. That’s kinda straightforward
- But…. But, we can’t do that!
  it’s a antisemitic to not fund genocide! The genocidal maniac said so.
He's in a lose/lose situation now.
He can keep supporting Israel and lose the support of the younger voters he so desperately needs.
OR:
He can reverse course, let Bibi twist in the wind, causing him to lose all support from the pro-Israel lobby, and be met with "yeah, but you didn't do it soon enough" from the younger voters.
- Third option is: you're misusing our armaments, and we won't give you more.
  
  That would run him afoul of the pro-Israel lobby and nobody can afford to do that.
  https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/background?cycle=2024&ind=Q05
  https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S
- I’m pretty sure the youth is more receptive to not funding genocide with tax dollars than you make it out to seem
  
  They aren't though. See the complaints about the economy. The youth vote is very vocal, but they don't have the money to make up for lost donations from the Pro-Israel PAC.
- I just want to point out the latter has been a narrative for decades and "younger voters" just keep getting older with it. It's also completely hypothetical because listening to anyone younger than Boomers hasn't been tried.
  I'm in my 40s, I vote reliably, I voted for Biden in 2020 to give him a chance. As long as Biden is continuing to ship weapons to Israel I won't be voting for him again.
  
  As long as the Israel lobby is pumping millions into the political system and you aren't, yes, nobody is going to listen to you.
We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!
Someone tell Biden there is actually a really easy solution.
Stop arms exports to israel.
Jesus tapdancing christ there’s a TRIVIAL fucking solution right the fuck in front of us. Stop giving explodey shit to the people committing genocide, and also stop giving them any diplomatic cover whatsoever.
Local leader who is a Zionist is all out of ideas.
You can demonize the current president over one issue that is overseas, or you can not vote or vote for the other guy who will not accomplish anything but Israel support and worse.
Weigh what has been accomplished vs your issue vs the alternatives and vote accordingly.
- You could vote for the guy who thinks WiFi gives you leaky brain and vaccines open portals to hell instead. That'd show everyone!
  
  The most fascinating thing about blue MAGATs is how they keep peddling this narrative that leftists will vote for Trump.
  None of the leftist discourse online I have ever seen has embraced this idea. Admittedly I never see lemmygrad posts due to instance.
  So in your worst case, a fringe group of like 3000 hardcore Putin supporters will maybe vote Trump for fun. The West has fallen.
  Maybe when your only talking point is “it’s just a little genocide”, it’s time to reflect.
- If only we had some clue as to how the other guy would handle the protests.... oh yeah, we kind of do:
  Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op
  Trump threatens military force against protesters nationwide
  
  Not only that, he said recently that these protests wouldn't be happening if he was in the White House. His positions on Palestine and left-leaning protests have not exactly been subtle.
- So that’s American tax dollars that could go to funding things that actually impact Americans directly.
  Maintaining peace in the Middle East is important- and the one of the most egregious arguments before all this happened is to provide leverage to keep Israel…. From doing … this.
  The reality is that argument is a lie. The war in gaza has set back the goal of peace in the Middle East by decades. Maybe even centuries, while bringing us inexorably closer to WW3.
  If Biden reverse course now… he has a chance. If he stays the angry old Zionist, though… he’s going to lose in November.
- Absolutely protest in order to try to bring about policy changes. But when it comes time to elect leadership, do it wisely.
  
  Sounds like people should be protesting for electoral reform so they can vote for the candidate that represents them best, while still counting their vote against the republicans.
There are easy solutions, just depends on what you're trying to solve for. If the student protests are the problem, do nothing and wait like 2 weeks until exams and the end of the semester and they will peter out on their own.
If he has to solve Israel/Palestine peace...yeah that's famously a sticky wicket and there was never going to be an easy solution.
- At this point the bigger issue is that the US seems to support what appears to be an ongoing genocide.
campus protests rule
There's only one moral solution. Support the protesters and stop enabling genocide.

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