Threadverse Working Group is formed
Threadverse Working Group is formed
At this year's FediForum one of the breakout sessions centred around the Theadiverse, the subset of ActivityPub-enabled applications built around a group-centric model of content representation.
The main outcome of the meeting involved the genesis of an informal working group for the threadiverse, in order to align our disparate implementations toward a common path.
If you're developer of a threadverse app/platform and interested in being involved, read more at https://mastodon.social/@julian@community.nodebb.org/112124227775597261 or https://community.nodebb.org/topic/17908/threadiverse-working-group
i just hope whatever they do it is lemmy-compatible
It should be.
I've been looking at https://helge.codeberg.page/fep/final/fep-1b12/ which is the closest thing we have to a standard way to do communities. It was written by a Lemmy dev and so Lemmy does 95% of what is described there.
The only missing piece is the
replies, which Lemmy devs havenotepid interest in https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2004. However Mastodon has this so we have an example to copy. I expect nailing that one down will be the bulk of the discussion to be had.The replies collection is only really really useful when adding a remote community for the first time and back-filling old content, so it's not something that people on large instances will miss very much if Lemmy never implements it.
@rimu@piefed.social You might wanna update your comment with the info brought by @rglullis@communick.news. Lemmy devs already receive a lot of hate around here and any little thing end up becoming another reason to attack them.
I should probably know this, but why "threadverse" and not "fediverse"? The name Threadverse sounds like a Meta trademark.
Threadiverse existed before Meta started their thing.
Thread i verse, threadverse??? I don't know :)
Theadiverse refers specifically to Fediverse sites that are organized like forums.
Yea. Broadly it's basically everything that's not microblogging and has well organised conversations
That's exactly my thought. I really don't like "Threadiverse" for that reason.
So who is involved in this so far?
Developers from Discourse, NodeBB, Mbin, PieFed, Hubzilla and maybe some more that I forgot. Possibly Lemmy devs too, someone is contacting them directly about that.
If we can get Discourse and NodeBB sharing nicely with Lemmy+Mbin+PieFed it could more than double the size of the threadverse. It's a big deal.
If we can get Discourse and NodeBB sharing nicely with Lemmy+Mbin+PieFed it could more than double the size of the threadverse. It’s a big deal.
Indeed!
If that all comes together, it'd be like "what kind of forum/reddit platform does the fediverse have" and the answer would just be "yes".
Shouldnt admins be involved in this as well? Just an idea.
How many people attended this 'FediForum'? I ask because I'd like to see how representative it is of the community. The last thing the Fediverse needs is another cliché of nerds directing the strategy of a decentralized protocol.
A few hundreads I think? Though I don't know how many are part of this working group. It's open though so you or anyone interested can join.
Was FediForum that cash-grab event t 90€/person with no public live-stream where fediverse developers had to pay admission too? Or am I thinking of another event?
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There were a variety of price points, including $1.99 tickets for people who couldn't afford more. General Tickets were 40 bucks, but quite a few people spent more to sponsor the cheap tickets to help out. Only corporate attendees paid $250 per person.
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The demos were recorded and uploaded, extensive notes for each breakout session were written, and some of us did live-blogging for the entire day while attending. The general format of an unconference is pretty grassroots, conversational, and informal.
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It's the third event of its kind, bringing in a wide variety of people building different parts of the Fediverse, from Trust & Safety to standards bodies to developers and advocates. There's a lot of awesome things happening as people try to grapple with some of the biggest challenges the network has ever had.
Ah so, it is FediForum I was thinking of. @nutomic@lemmy.ml made a comment about not wanting to participate because he had to pay and I wasn't sure if it was this.
It all still feels really iffy. This could've easily been streamed on a streaming platform of choice or just like FOSDEM did during COVID: through matrix. Also, only demo videos were uploaded, not the talks themselves. That just feels like a marketing move: give them a taste so that next time, they'll spend money to get the real thing.
I can understand that there's effort and time required by the organisers to set this all up, but IMO there's a better way that makes this seem less... commercial and FARTSy (forced artificial scarcity). For example make it free for maintainers, stream with a delay for the public (e.g 5 minutes like in esports) and none for participants, let participants join in the live chat, record entire talks, upload the talks to peertube and add donation links.
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