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China's largest green hydrogen refuelling station is selling H2 at a seventh of the cost of the fuel in California

www.hydrogeninsight.com China's largest green hydrogen refuelling station is selling H2 at a seventh of the cost of the fuel in California

Sany claims its integrated production and fuelling complex supplies hydrogen at cost parity with diesel

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Going to try to parse this since I think the title is confusing/misleading:

-A gas station in China is selling Hydrogen fuel much cheaper than you can buy Hydrogen fuel in the US state of California

-The price of the H2 in China is still, at best, about the same price as diesel

-It’s much cheaper in China simply because they’re doing a lot of the innovation with H2 fuel, while also having pretty heavy subsidies

-Hydrogen Fuel is expensive in part because, unlike a traditional gas station where you just have a giant tank of fuel in a reservoir underneath it, H2 has to be stored in a complex compressed fashion

-For this reason, H2 fuel stations can only fill up about 100 cars a day (a normal gas station often gets more than 1000).

So basically, in the absolute best circumstances H2 fuel is now almost as cheap as Diesel right in the location where they’re developing H2 technology.

I’m not a Hydrogen hater. I think it’s a neat concept. But the title is really breaking its back to sound charitable to the tech
- Thanks for doing that legwork. It's definitely a biased article coming from a pro-hydrogen website. But hell, I'm just glad that some random liberal website isn't pissing on China for no fucking reason. Or using some outdated, proven false, conspiracy theory.
  
  And of course, China is using subsidies to keep their fuel prices low, but so does the U$ lol.
  
  I'm more interested in the part of the article that said that it actually generates the hydrogen on site. This saves on transportation costs, although it's possible that it's less efficient to do it on site and maybe some centralized hydrogen generation would outweigh the cost of transportation. I don't know. But that seems neat.
Does China have cars that run on hydrogen?
- It's mostly public transit and trucks from what I've read.
  
  Which is what makes the most sense too, hydrogen fuel cells generally don't make much sense for personal vehicles
- Yes. So does the US and Europe
China stay winning.

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