Places that used to not ask for tip now asking for tip(when I'm just picking up my order) and I know that shit isn't going to the workers.
Yeah, I will ask workers what the tip-out policy is at questionable places (i.e. Fast Food Service), most of the places that put in these tip screens do not actually tip-out or have some insane policy to make sure workers never claim the money and/or only a small percentage. Like if a tip jar would seem out of place and/or wasn’t there before a store’s POS upgrade I generally assume the management is pocketing the tip (i.e. Five Guys Burgers, cash goes to employees but I’ve been told by a few cashiers that credit card tips seem to vanish into thin air)
Isn't this straight up wage theft?
tip cash right to the person
If you order carryout from a sit-down restaurant, it most likely does go to the worker who's hired to get your order.
I'm not defending the practice because that doesn't seem like a situation where you should have to tip, but just sharing information
however, now that Walmart has pickup for groceries, I often am, "oops I left a wad of money back there, you can put it in your pocket" just to avoid the Walmart tip process online. Who knows who is getting it. If they workers want tips they should fight to be the "bring the food to the car" people or have an honest collaboration with the "pick the food from the shelves for my order people", I just assume they rotate around.
Anyhow, sometimes it is even pouring rain, and I said, damn! -- then the guy said that unless there was thunder or lightning they had to go into the rain.
Here's a tip. Pay your employees better.
If you continually buy product from a place that doesn't pay their staff better, all you're doing is rewarding the business owner and telling them to keep doing what they're doing. It solves nothing and doesn't get rid of tipping culture to keep giving these shitty businesses your money.
If you continually [work for] a place that doesn't pay their staff better, all you're doing is rewarding the business owner and telling them to keep doing what they're doing. It solves nothing and doesn't get rid of tipping culture to keep giving these shitty businesses your [time].
I obviously don’t agree with this opinion; I don’t think either of them makes sense. Boycotting a business from the consumer side leads to fewer tips and layoffs, while boycotting a business from the employee side results in… unemployment. Both scenarios objectively harm workers. Change either needs to come from the top down via legislation, or from the bottom-up via unionization.
Profit trumps wages. Always has.
You think the cashier is the owner?
All the assclowns who think that's tipworthy better be tipping at McDonald's too
In your mind there exist people who just tip every time they're asked no matter the context?
I wish I lived in a world where people could literally afford to be that dumb.
Most people do tip every time when asked. The social pressure of an employee standing over you while you decide whether to tip or not pushes most to just hit one of the tipping options just to get out of the uncomfortable situation.
It's made intentionally uncomfortable so that they can squeeze an extra couple bucks out of people for no reason.
When I go to McDonalds or any other drive through fast food place I pay in cash, such that the change they would give me back would be at least a 30% tip.
I let them gather the change to give back to me (so they're not distracted and the till has been properly managed) and then when they go to give me my change I say "That's tip", and give a huge thumbs up (I'm not sure where cameras face or if they record audio, and so I want to make it clear in any way that I can that the worker didn't just steal my change).
I'm not saying that everyone should do that, but those workers are underpaid and if it costs me $10 to make someone's day a little better, while they're saving me the time and effort of cooking my own meal, for me that's money well spent.
I don't give my money to businesses that brutally exploit their workers. Period.
It would be basically impossible to exist in modern society if that were true.
My tipping habits are purely chaotic whim or lack of attention in the moment. I accidentally tipped $70 to the guy who tinted my windows the other day.
My tipping habits are ask you boss for a raise. I'm already paying for the service through predicated prices.
About a year ago I accidentally tipped a blackjack dealer thirty dollars.
I meant to tip ten (two red chips)
But my colorblind ass tipped thirty (one red chip one green chip)
I wasn't even mad when I realized what I'd done. Figured my mistake made that dealer's day just a tiny smidge better.
A local ice cream shop asked me to tip on the very first screen when I swiped my credit card. You scooped ice cream a couple of times and put it into a bowl. Ridiculous.
In Cupertino there was a self serve yogurt shop (I think it was called Yogurtland) where the cashier only rang you up by weight, and their checkout system asked for a tip, but they never offered to tip customers for doing the majority of the work.
I love punishing low wage workers while making statements on how the system should change.
"Oh, you thought you could afford to take a day off this week to help an elderly parent make it to a doctor appointment? Nah, get fucked. You can't afford to that and buy groceries."
It sucks that low wage workers are stuck in the middle, but corporations are also relying on customer guilt to pay their labor costs while posting record profits.
It's not really fair to blame the customer for that.
It's not my fault the system is broken. I'm not going to subsidize them. If they want fair wages they should unionize.
Stop rewarding the business owner with your money while they're robbing their employees. You only exacerbate the situation with this mentality.
No, you'll just subsidize the people exploiting them instead because it's convenient and you can't be bothered to heat up your own nuggies, all the while feeling holier than thou about not "subsidizing" the actual worker.
Sounds cool bro.
Me too
Uh no. There are limits to tipping no matter how much empathy you have. Thinking if a tip is asked for means you are necessarily fuck the worker means you're falling for a scam a significant amount of the time, and in cases like that it 100% wouldn't surprise me if a lot if such owners are keeping the tips for themselves. That shit is illegal but happens all the time without consequence
There are legitimate reasons to not tip someone. Being a cashier typically does not necessarily obligate someone to tip you. Lots of times people will say "keep the change" at a fast food restaurant and the workers take home maybe $10 each on a busy shift, but that isn't really tipping.
If you hate legitimate "tipping culture" so much, stop making it the minimum wage earner's problem that they work for a shitty employer and start boycotting places that refuse to pay their workers a living wage.
Fucking everywhere does this now. Are we boycotting everywhere?
Australia doesn't do tips. I think they're saying move to Australia or you're a class traitor.
Yes, everywhere and everything. Every stitch of clothing you wear, the home you pay for, the food you eat, it's like six degrees of Kevin Bacon but for sin. Live in an abandoned cave in a forest on the moon or you're supporting someone you don't like.
I never tip if I’m picking up takeout food, but I will always tip if I’m eating in or if I’m getting it delivered to me.
I wish tipping was not a thing in the States, I’d rather pay more upfront and not have to tip :V
The thing is, these restaurants make more than enough money to pay their workers more. The tip culture came during a time when rich people wanted to be sat first ahead of the poors in line, so they bribed the maitre d to be preferentially treated. Any restaurant owner talking about "razor thin margins" is full of shit. I've seen what restaurant owners drive. I've seen the vacations they take. No restaurant owner at a successful restaurant is in the breadlines.
Lemmy:
It's all about class solidarity!
Also Lemmy: Unless the minimum wage exploited employee is a cashier, in which case fuck'em.
It's good to remember that no social media platform is a monolith of opinion.
Fair.
It still seems like this post is getting far more support, and less pushback, than I would expect given the support I've seen for anti-capitalist, anti-work, "class consciousness", posts.
Context is king: that cashier sees none of those tips because you used your debit card and the 'tip' goes directly into the corporations bank account.
Loblaws already has a fat enough margin with the gouging, they don't need any extra boosts from my just-about-broke ass.
Well, that's what cash is for, and also that is usually not how it works. I'm sure it is how it works somewhere but by and large (like 99%) the servers/cashiers/drivers get paid out for those tips, sometimes having to split them, sometimes with taxes taken out already, but they do get it.
Not saying you have to tip, if you feel they don't deserve any kindness then by all means fuck em, but they do usually get the tips despite what you may think.
When the cashier has a union and strikes, I won't cross the line. Otherwise, get over it! Spit in my food if you have too.
I'm dealing with my own workers rights problems, I can't take on everyone else's at the same time.
Servers have an established expectation of relying on tips to get a living wage, and often earn less than the minimum wage otherwise. The same is not true for cashiers. Maybe they should be paid more, but that should not be done by creating more reliance on tips to subsidize low wages.
Bosses are legally required to make up the difference to minimum wage if a tipped employee doesn't get enough tips.
If I tip a cashier, then we're taking money away from the working class to give to the working class, which means there's no net change. But if I refuse to tip, the boss has to make up the difference and the working class gets money from the capital class.
Therefore tipping is class treachery. You're depriving the workers of chances to take money from the bourgeois.
Tell me you haven't worked a menial job without telling me you haven't worked a menial job
nah, I’ve worked in the food service industry. Places asking for tips on carryout orders is manipulative and gross.
This neglects the very real COL crisis we're living in and the refusal for states to raise minimum wage to appropriate levels that allow these workers to actually survive. Demand better treatment of workers by not rewarding predatory businesses.
You should never be afraid to not tip. It is optional.
I've started carrying cash again for the first time in like 30 years, just so I don't have to deal with this shit anymore. Fuck off, beggars!
I only use cash cause fuck the bank and credit card company tracking every purchase I make and selling my data to anyone. Not getting extorted for bribes by these fuckheads is just a bonus.
They should be so lucky to earn shit pay! Fucking starve!
No, their employer should pay them a living wage. It shouldn't be legal for the rich motherfucker who owns the business to hire people for almost nothing, and then pretend it's a good paying job because he lets them beg every customer for a percentage of their bill. Tips are just employers outsourcing the compensation of their employees to consumers under the pressure of guilt.
People who moralize tipping are fucking scum. Tip or don't. Preferably don't. Don't make a long list of BS rules when and how much you'll tip. Don't go off your gut either; because that's how you end up subconsciously tipping in ways that are passively racist and sexist. Flat amount.
Tip the same amount no matter what, even if that amount is zero.
Tips are usually pooled with the others that did the "work" you approve of.
You seem really cool anyway.
When did he transition to a man? I’ve only ever seen him with huge jugs. Good for him.
Sounds like you're all "tip", actually. 🤌🏼
