Anyone else see so many pictures of pretty women that it makes them want to transition?
Anyone else see so many pictures of pretty women that it makes them want to transition?
My social media algorithms show me so many cool cosplayers, tomboys, pretty girls in a variety of nice clothes, alt girls, fairies with elf ears but never any attractive men doing anything cool or stylish or interesting that it just feels so lame being a guy.
I never see any attractive men (im bi) with interesting style or clothes or looking attractive in cosplay or being artistic and hot. Are dudes just so boring with their looks or is my algorithm just too skewed towards women?
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The algorithm is pushing that content because you either interact more with it or spend longer time scrolling by. Pictures of beautiful women will always dominate the social media, because everyone regardless of gender and age are biologically conditioned to look at them.
Don't be fooled into believing that anything on social media is remotely close to reality. It's absolutely not a reason for anyone to make life changing decisions. You need to make those decisions based in reality.
If you're into cosplay, fashion, modelling or photography, you should try seeing it in real life to acknowledge how incredibly dull it is to make those perfect pictures.
But also, yes, most dudes are generally less interested in appearing visually hot. It's mostly bodybuilders who post their beefcakes to impress people on social media. It's so vain and lacking in confidence in my opinion. I don't need large muscles to feel manly. To me "manliness" is more about being confident. Not by slacking off and just not caring, but by paying attention to details and understanding how what I wear is fitting me in the situation.
If you have an actual interest in male fashion, you can easily find that content. There's no reason why you should feel lame or boring for being a man. There are lots of things you can play with to make a great personal look. For instance I'd start out by ditching the classic safe white or blue shirts and get something with more colours and made from a finer fabric. It will instantly make you stand out from the guys who just wear what their wife brought home.
because everyone regardless of gender and age are biologically conditioned to look at them.
Sorry but this is bullshit. Images of women dominate social media because men with power (and money) tend to like looking at them. I may not be socially conditioned to treat men as objects but the lack of choice this society affords me does not somehow mean I have the same visual preferences as the men who dictate my world.
No, it's not (just) because horny old rich men like watching it.
Images of beautiful women dominate social media because it works in marketing. They wouldn't do it if it didn't work.
It's not at all about what you prefer watching. Preferably you'd want to avoid watching marketing all together. No, it's about what makes you buy stuff.
Most marketing is directed at women (even for men products) because the purchase decisions are mostly done by women in the moment of sales. Using beautiful women in marketing simply sells better.
Now you're mixing up "what marketers think works" with the much broader category of "images on social media".
What marketing departments dominated by men think works is not the same thing as what actually works is not the same thing as what gets put on social media.
What marketing departments dominated by men think works is not the same thing as what actually works
In this case, isn't it because the market evolved faster than they could keep up with? Probably there was a time where most of their customers were "macho men", so these adds would work in marketing.
That is the assumption. But that does not mean it is true.
I posted an example of the tyre company before. The other example I can't find is the blog by a guy who rented two stalls at either end of the same conference, staffed one with models and the other with local grandmothers. The grandmothers did much more business. It's the salesmen who want the stall staffed with models, not the customers.
The evidence-base of sales & marketing is dismal to non-existent.
It's the salesmen who want the stall staffed with models, not the customers.
Could you link the evidence-base of this though?
Could you read the post though?
Ok I realise that I did not put the previous comment in the friendliest form, sorry about that !
Your point is that the marketing choice of using beautiful women is dictated by the sellers' preferences rather that the buyers' one. In the apparent absence of evidence to support either hypothesis, you are willing to favor the former one.
What I haven't said explicitly yet is that there is one argument that makes me find the latter one more likely in the absence of further evidence : the businesses that make their marketing choices based on customers' preferences will tend to survive more. kn our capitalist society, it makes sense to me.
You gave one counter-example that is not strong enough to change my opinion as it can also be explained with the firm having poorly evaluated what their target audience was. They do say in the article that more women started buying tyres after the marketing change, which is indeed not the audience targeted with the sexy-girl ad.
It does however a good job at disproving the affirmation "because everyone regardless of gender and age are biologically conditioned to look at them." to which you were originally replying, and I disagree with that affirmation as well. I just think your conclusion goes too far i the other direction, in the absence of further evidence.
Like I said, the evidence-base is near non-existent. But you can't look at decisions foisted on us almost exclusively by sales types and assume that means it works because they know what they're doing.
it can also be explained with the firm having poorly evaluated what their target audience was
It was a tech conference attended almost exclusively by men.
I wish I could find the article now. But (some of) what he said was that the models attracted sleaze balls who were there to have a jolly, not to do business. Stall busy, order book empty. And that the local grandmothers did so well because they could recommend local restaurants and leisure activities and did not make the company look like it only wanted to do business with sleaze balls. Stall busy, order book full.
He also said that it was the sales men (specifically, men) who demanded they employ models because they wanted to spend all day hanging out with models being sleaze balls, not because there was any evidence that it improved business (hence, the test).
The one example I was commenting about is the tyre example. They sold more tyres to women after dropping the sexy girl on the ad. How much of a stretch is it to assume that these women were not the sexy ad's target audience because women used to be less (socially allowed to get) interested in cars?
Images of women dominate social media because men with power (and money) tend to like looking at them
Lol you think all the horny 20 something dudes salivating over Instagram hotties have power and money?
Clicks are money. The people making the decisions are not the people they're trying to make money off. HTH
I'm sorry, you're confused about this. People with money are not driving the behavior of the hottie enjoyers. It's the reverse. Joe Everyman is willing to give his attention to hot women, and Instagram is profiting off that.
Ordinary people have the power to control what they see?
Bullshit.
Unsure if trolling or not. Yes, you have the power to choose what you view online.
Who decides what is made available to view?
Now I wonder how ancient art and representation compares to modern day.
Like not enough to fall down the rabbit hole, but damn sure enough to mention it, and hope someone else falls down and they report back.