1y ago

That's not ketchup

“We will continue to actively engage in the hard work of direct diplomacy on the ground until we reach a Final Solution.”

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Part of the US' PR strategy is to use a person of color when voting for genocide. Makes it seem like "see even minorities agree on this one".
- I know there's merit to bash the US, but do you have any evidence whatsoever to make such a bold claim that this is official "US PR Strategy"?
  
  It’s not like a whole US policy, just a common tactic.
  Colin Powell claiming Iraq WMDs is a good direct comparison, Rompaswampy claiming Trump is legitimate, Candace Owens existing… grifters gonna grift.
  
  I didn't say it was official, if anything I think it's somewhat unofficial by its very nature, no?!
  It's not like I have a classified document where this sorta thing would be mentioned 😀
  It's just an observation, and it's something I learned (didn't come up with it myself), probably from a video essay on Youtube or something like that - tried to remember specifically from where but I couldn't tell you. But it's been a pattern, with Colin Powell being used for the war in Iraq for example.
  edit: I think /u/crusa187 offered a better reply with more examples
- What a comically absurd statement to be upvoted.
  
  Everyone knows Nikki Haley was appointed to the UN because of her foreign policy experience as governor of South Carolina.
  
  It's a common strategy and it's not just US that does it. I would assert that it's mostly conservatives that do it (so pretty much all US politicians)
  
  Nothing I see in the real world leads me to believe these upvotes are all real.

They have blood on their hands. Just as our politicians in Europe do.

Biden is actively supporting a genocidal and fascist Israeli government.
Here is a good DN segment on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKgAALBt5UQ
Biden ran on re-building our standing globally and re-building support for institutions like the UN. Now we're the thing disabling the UN from preventing a genocide.
Vote uncommitted moving forwards. If Democrats don't think they need to come get your vote, or that they are reasons we vote for them in the first place, don't vote for them. Voting Democrat without holding them accountable is the second steps of a waltz that continues to drive the United States over a right wing cliff.
- At this current time, it would be extremely foolish to not vote Democrat.
  I know this is really a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich, but at least one of them isn't going to destroy democracy and create alliances with the despots of this world.
  And the thing is, if Trump wins, do you think he's going to stop the genocide? If anything he's going to praise Netanyahu for being so strict and a fascist autoritarian.
  Netanyahu knows that a Trump win would help him. He's been playing Biden this whole time and working to destroy his reputation. Biden is just trying to keep some kind of relationship with Israel because they're their only ally in the region.
  It's all very complex, but in the end voting Democrat is the best choice you have at the moment.
  
  It's all very complex, but in the end voting Democrat is the best choice you have at the moment.
  If anybody has a problem with this statement, it's because the moment to do something about this was every fucking election in the past. Vote in small elections where people get their opportunity for their start. Vote in primaries to choose a better person for the general. If we all had been doing this in the past, we wouldn't have such a shitty choice now. So what do we do now? Keep the pressure on the people in power now, vote for the lesser of two evils in the immediate future, and most importantly, vote in every fucking election from now on. Democracy isn't one and done. Voting is not just your right, it's your goddamn responsibility. You owe it to yourself, your children, and every other person whether you love them or hate them, whether you agree with them or disagree with them, whether they're alive now or won't be born for another hundred or thousand years.
  Fuck Joe Biden. But fuck trump more. A vote for Biden this year gives us more time to find a better choice, plus he's gotten quite a bit of good done in only four years. A vote for trump gets us shit like abortion bans, attempts to reverse marriage equality, stripping away healthcare, stripping away elder care and child care, stripping away worker rights, raising your taxes to lower the taxes of the wealthy, and many more things that will only make your life shittier. There is objectively no good reason for any person who isn't already a millionaire to vote for trump. He's got the mierdas touch; everything he touches turns to shit.
  
  I'm so happy that people are finally pushing back against this. I got tired of being the only one to be brigaded by angry people who sort by newest comment and constantly hit F5.
  
  At this current time, it would be extremely foolish to not vote Democrat.
  No, what was foolish was moderates thinking we were bluffing twice.
  
  Both of you are wrong. Its time for your people to overthrow those leeches that govern you, by arms if necessary. Theres no lesser evil
- lol what an asinine, short-sighted take that it may be confused with a right-wing wedge-driver.
  Congratulations. You're helping the guy who is objectively-worse in every conceivable way, including genocide. Not only has Trump made it abundantly clear he'd be worse for Palestinians, he would also be worse for Ukrainians under genocidal threat, too.
  
  Your blue no matter who strategy has been I place since 2008. As a result, the Democratic party is further right than it's ever been before, and creeping fascism has exploded into running fascism.
  This is a direct consequence of your strategy. Blue no matter who results in unaccountable elected officials, because you've positioned yourself to have no other option. They have no requirements of responsiveness to your political positions because they know that you think "this election is too important'.
  It's basic game theory and you've cornered yourself into supporting your opponents strategy. By voting blue no matter who you've set up a paradigm where the best case scenario is a slow walk into right wing facism.
  If haven't been able to tell, the strategy is obviously not working. Look at how unresponsive Biden has been to voter sentiment in Gaza. He's in complete opposition to his base. As such he faces losing Michigan. The direct cause of this is the confidence that he will not lose voters because you are unwilling to make the difficult choice of withholding your consent. As such he knows he doesn't need to respond to your policy positions, and in doing so, is setting up the conditions for another Trump presidency.
  Congratulations, you played yourself.
- Election day is for voting Democrat - no ifs ands or buts.
  Every other day of the election cycle is for pushing, cajoling, encouraging, bribing, bullying, and helping the Democrats do better.
  If this isn't what you're doing, you're helping the objectively Far worse option into power, and potentially doing your bit to end democracy in the US for the foreseeable future.
  
  If my only choices are evil or a lesser evil, then the system is already broken, and democracy is already dead. What we're experiencing is the dying rattle.
- Biden doesn’t have the control over Israel you think he does. I’m sure Trump will be much tougher on Israeli genocide tho
  It’s cool how you get to decide which genocide matters btw
  if dems don’t feel the need to come get your vote
  Give me a fuckin break, Jesus Christ what a brain dead take. You make it sound like the ONLY campaigning any dem is doing is we’ll vote for us cause we’re dem. That is so fucking BULLSHIT.
  They’re campaigning on trumps Russian connections and his fraud, his exposure of top secret docs, his efforts on Dobbs and abortion, on tax breaks for the rich and attacking the irs, attacking science and vaccines, I could go on FOR GODDAMN HOURS.
  But no-no! It’s just vote for us cuz blue!!!
  Fuck your false reality
- The amount of downvotes on this is absurd
  Imagine being an American Palestinian with dead family in Gaza being told to vote for Biden because he's the lesser evil.
  Dude would probably sucker punch you in the face for such an asanine idea.
  Not to mention by the time elections end, the genocide will already have gone though it's climax and ended with who knows how many dead. The pressure to put on Biden needs to happen now, and it's easy to do because it's election year.
  If he still refuses to budge then he loses the election. That's a good thing because a genocide supporter really shouldn't be president.
  
  Biden IS the lesser evil. The fact that you and I don't like that doesn't matter a jot. The alternative is immeasurably worse. Biden is an evil man who supports Genocide and the alternative is worse and because of the shitty FPP voting system, you should vote for Biden.
  
  Yea we get it, you are new to US elections. Let me give you a tip: every goddamn election is the choice between two lesser evils. No candidate can court all issues for all voters. The propped up 2p system ensures this.
  Until we shift US politics when it comes to 2 parties, the electoral college, ranked choice voting, and getting money out of politics (citizens united rulings), this will ALWAYS be the case.
  Voting red ain’t gonna help you in that regard, only blue cares about democracy right now.
  Imagine being an American Palestinian indeed: vote for Biden who is trying to hold Israel back or vote for Trump who is cheering on bibi and his genocide?
  Imagine being an American Ukrainian: vote for Biden who is invested in ukraines survival or Trump who wants to split up nato and genocide the remaining Ukrainians?
  It’s so neat how you get to choose which genocide matters btw.

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