Just to be clear, we are well beyond the tipping point, have fallen off the cliff, and watching the Atlantic currents collapse is like seeing rocks hitting the ground before you do. "Oh, look, the ground approaches rapidly, and everything that hits it at this speed will be pulverized."
global tipping point, yes, buy when the Atlantic Conveyor breaks down, that's very special tipping point that fucks up a lot of things severely and quickly...
Right, but calling it a tipping point implies we have a chance to prevent it.
Like in a movie where the bus is teetering on the edge of a cliff, and there's an anvil falling from the sky about to hit the back of the bus and knock it over the edge, you wouldn't say "Well the bus has almost reached its tipping point."
Or maybe a better analogy is a set of dominoes where you are looking at this one domino that knocks down the grand finale, but the dominoes leading to that one are already falling and have been for a long time. The collapse of the Atlantic conveyor is not the start of a chain reaction, it's just one really big link.
Not until any of this directly impacts people, like with famine, water scarcity, war, or panic from civilization collapse ... no one will care about what's going on with the world's oceans.
And then they'll beg their leaders to do what can no longer be done. One of the reasons we're heading down a very bad timeline is that many people really don't seem to get the notion of a problem that must be fixed before its effects hit, and can't be fixed once the effects are felt.
“What surprised us was the rate at which tipping occurs,” said the paper’s lead author, René van Westen, of Utrecht University. “It will be devastating.”
Isn't this one the one that when it's going we have livable temperatures in Europe and North America, but when it stops we get an ice age with glaciers and all that?
I wonder what the timeline is for something like that. Like how long between this current collapsing and glaciers making it to the great lakes?
Yes and no. It will have the greatest effect on the northern most counties like Sweden Finland Ireland, etc by at most 5-6C. France will be fine https://youtu.be/tnVWUIhQ8dE?si=3WHusDe8X3_Q35Ah
There's lots of misinformation on this topic. Yes, this stopping would be bad for Europe but hardly any apocalypse scenario. Here a scientist break it down : https://youtu.be/tnVWUIhQ8dE?si=3WHusDe8X3_Q35Ah