Voters said they didn't want a Biden-Trump rematch. Now they're facing longest general election ever.

Biden has advanced a lot of helpful policies for millions of people in his first term, really progressive civil rights policies and good economic and foreign policies.

trump rapes people, lies about it, and repeatedly commits election fraud.

The only way you can pretend these two are remotely similar is if you ignore the real world because you're too cynical to learn anything.

Lazy article, lazy thesis.

The only thing similar about them is that the electorate doesn't want them. Oh, and they're both older than former president Bill Clinton, who has been out of office for 25 years now.
- I want Biden. And he won The New Hampshire primary without even being on the ballot.
  I think this "the electorate doesn't want him" shit is made up or refers only to people who don't understand or know about the positive consequences of Biden administration policies, repeating vapid, empty headlines
  It's repeated too often with zero evidence outside of ludicrous polls to be given any merit.

Well, here's your problem.

Republicans, by and large, want Trump.

Democratic voters, by and large, want to make sure that Trump loses (much like the person he is), and would like any candidate that can offer a high probability of that happening. Biden has already beat Trump once, and has, overall, been a pretty decent president. (Yes, the Israel thing is a mess, I know. From the river to the sea, etc.) Dems might prefer a younger candidate that's better at ramming legislation through--which no Dem could do right now, not with Republicans controlling the House--but preventing a Republican victory is more important.

So that's how we've arrived here.

Bernie would be better. But we already know what the old establishment dems think of him.
- Sanders, while I love the guy, is a more polarizing figure than Biden.
  Biden was pretty much always going to be the nominee in 2020 for that reason: he was never anybody's favorite, but he was the one face in that field with the important distinction that while nobody really super liked him, nobody really hated him either. Cast a wide net, big tent, and all that.
  While the people who like Sanders really like him, there are also a lot of people who would vote Biden to block Trump for whom being asked to vote for Sanders would be a bridge too far. Not that they'd vote for Trump instead...but they just wouldn't cast a vote for either main party candidate.
  ...which of course also segues neatly to the fact that Sanders isn't a Democrat, and asking the DNC to nominate someone who's not even a party member is a big ask anyway.
- Against Trump? Probably not. Republicans and independents that lean Republican view Sanders as a communist, which is generally a bad thing. (Sanders is more a democratic socialist, which is generally a positive thing.)
What I don't see talked about much is the record breaking oil extraction done under the Biden administration.
- Is record breaking oil extraction actually news? Isn't that a record we've been consistently breaking since fraking was discovered? I feel like it's more "Oh shit, the money machine might be turned off soon, best run that shit as fast as we can until then" from oil execs rather than "I, as Supreme Commander of the United States, demand more oil be extracted"
- Still better than a dictatorship, no?

This election started in November 2022, because the media wants to milk as much money as possible from both rage bait and fear mongering.

And yet, democracy itself is on the ballot. I don’t want Joe Biden to be my nominee, but I also realize that Trump is the absolute collapse of America. It’s letting our basest instincts and lesser demons overcome the promise of what we could be.

I don’t care that he’s old and moderate and held dumbass positions in the past. Biden is what is standing between order and chaos. Stability and collapse.

One candidate openly supports lawlessness and fascism for his own personal gain. The other is an old yellow dog Democrat who governs from the center right. It sucks, but the right thing is showing up for Biden IF you vote in a swing state.

If you don’t vote in a swing state, vote hard down ballot, then do whatever for president. It doesn’t really matter.

Biden has not governed from the center right, at least during his presidency.
He's advanced concrete LGBTQ rights more than probably any other president.
People talk about him like they have not been paying any attention to the three years of policy and legislation he's pushed through that advancing civil rights, and it's probably because they aren't paying attention and it's easier to complain then comprehensively analyze the candidates.
trump is a rapist who doesn't care about hurting people for his own gain, so it's pretty easy to analyze him, but these two candidates couldn't be farther apart. In terms of domestic and foreign policy, civil rights, economic policy, it's just they're nothing like at all.
Lazy equivocative articles like this are useless or worse because they're spreading misinformation that Biden, who has actively helped tens of millions of people with his policies, is as bad as Trump, who has actively hurt untold millions with his policies.
- The trick is to make up your mind on him before he gets sworn in, then it's easy to dismiss any progress as "not far enough" or "just doing it to get re-elected"
- Biden is an establishment Democrat, and the Democratic party has been a center right party since Bill Clinton.

I'm gonna be honest, this shit is too noisy. I am exhausted by all of this. On top of it all, these fucks make more money in 5 minutes than I will slaving my life away. I hate politics. I hate bribery codified into law. I know it would be worse for everyone if this whole thing imploded but sometimes it feels like that would be a win. Because then maybe some of these fucks that don't realize or care we all have to share the same pie would be forced to take what has been alloted to me all these years. Am I saying I'd rather us all be in the dregs like rats? Probably not, but I think a healthy thing for a society to do is to not allow people to indirectly harm others by claiming a far bigger piece of the global pie than them and their ilk could ever remotely finish.

The problem with implosion is that it’s people like you and I that get hurt, and implosion doesn’t guarantee a sane outcome. To the contrary, countries that have major upheavals generally end up with authoritarians and dictators in power rather than easing into a stable democracy. The rich guys that remain take even more power and wealth. They’re even more untouchable.
The only kind of major upset that would effect real change would literally be to kill off the rich and powerful, especially the extremists. Otherwise it’s a long, difficult slog to possibly, if you’re lucky, change the system via democratic means.
- So an oligarchicide? That has a nice ring to it 🍴

They also want a cease-fire in Gaza, but once again, The Big Club doesn't care.

It's nice to see a Carlin reference.

The lack of a good candidate not named those two.

Nikki Haley is still running. Good grief people... There are 48 primaries left to go. If Republicans want someone else they can still choose Haley.
- Yeah, but they won't and you know it
- She is not going to win a single state. Her shot was NH. She is getting buried in the state where she won the governor's race; after she loses there, I can't imagine she'll keep getting funded.
  The republican party will split before they abandon Trump.

Maybe it's because we're tired of old as fuck candidates. I just want more capable and sharp-minded candidates. But we're not going to get that because old farts love other old farts so they keep getting on the ballot.

Because Democrats are assholes and refuse to see how fucking good Biden has been. Perfect is the enemy of good and they keep pushing left and don't have the numbers.

Do you have a list? Aside from trying student loan forgiveness, empowering unions (after kicking the rail union in the dick), and pushing Ukraine aid, I haven't seen anything spectacular, though I may have missed it.
Abortion still needs addressed federally, corps are killing us with prices and blaming inflation or covid, congress is still insider trading, and right now they're all collectively sucking Israel's dick.
I'll still vote biden but I'm gonna fucking complain about it.
- Do you have a list?
  Why yes, I do:
- Here's a link to a promise tracker.
  Tldr on the link is he's kept roughly a third of his promises so far, he's been stalled on roughly another third and he's working on another third. With a couple percentage points on promises he's had to compromise on and 1 promise broken.
- Ahhh right, he'll just magically wave his wand and convince everyone to change how they feel.
  Your statement really sums it up. Despite these wins while working with a batshit insane GOP Biden has not done enough.
  I'm not trying to knock on you personally. I just think the he should be doing more is a bit of a dream vs pragmatic reality.
Biden is the ONLY man in America that could sometimes do some moderately progressive things
- Yeah so why don't you go get on the fucking ballot then, I'd vote for you, let's go let's do it
- 👌👍
I was pleasantly surprised with him.
But you don't just get to hand wave away what he has enabled, and is continuing to enable, in Gaza.
If the choice is him vs Haley/Trump, of course I'm gonna vote Biden. But as a negative choice, not a positive one.
- I agree, I just don't see anyone working a viable path forward, certainly not while getting reelected. Israel is the least terrible choice for a long time. And for a while they were less genocidal about it. It's going to take some time to turn the ship around on Israel. It sucks, all of it. Pragmatism around a genocide is a fucked thing ain't it?
Sorry which part of our capitalistic hell-hole of an existence did he fix again? Healthcare? Inflation? Housing? Global Warming?
- dArK bRaNdOn

Regardless of the outcome, I fear this election will kill me.

I dunno. These articles strike me as right wing misinfo. I'm VERY excited that Trump NOT get elected again. That wouldn't matter even if he were running against Homer Simpson.

forgive me if im wrong but hasn't trump only won two of the smaller states in the union. What the heck is wrong with nowadays. No canidate of the past would be talked about like they were the one who was not the sitting president.