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Ukrainians worry after plane crash that POW exchanges with Russia will end

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Ukrainians worry after plane crash that POW exchanges will end

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I remember we're still on the Red Sea China shit from last night, but have you noticed that both CNN and Pravda Ukraine provided differing stories? You ever get the sense that after years that maybe the people saying the NATO & Ukraine news is both bullshit were right? Maybe we were actually trying to help!
Only five bodies delivered to Belgorod morgue after mysterious Russian plane crash, Ukrainian intelligence suggests — CNN
CNN claiming Ukraine shot it down but the POW story is bunk
Zelenskyy on the downing of Il-76: Ukraine will insist on an international investigation
Zelensky is going for "Russia shot it down" here
"We need to establish all the exact facts. As much as possible, given that the plane crash occurred on Russian territory, which is beyond our control.
‘Facts’ is the key word now. I have heard from the Commander-in-Chief and the General Staff about the use of the Air Force. The Defence Intelligence of Ukraine is working to find out the fate of all the prisoners of war. The Security Service of Ukraine is investigating all the circumstances.
And I have instructed the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine to inform our partners about the available data. Our country will insist on an international investigation."
- Well going back to my point of Reuters their title was Putin says Ukraine shot down plane, not clear if deliberately or in error.
  With explicit mentions of:
  Moscow accuses Kyiv of downing the Ilyushin Il-76 plane in Russia's Belgorod region and killing 74 people on board, including 65 captured Ukrainian soldiers en route to be swapped for Russian PoWs. It has not presented evidence.
  Ukraine has neither confirmed nor denied that it shot down the plane and has challenged Moscow's account of who was on board and what happened.
  
  And yet CNN already claims that only 5 bodies went to the morgue. Sounds like they want to get ahead of it and write a story saying there is no evidence before it's been provided so they can move on.
  And seriously, I need to go back and actually give you an honest explanation of how Reuters and Associated Press and WAPO and NYT and France24 and BBC and The Guardian are essentially part of the same entity
  
  This wouldn't be the first instance of Ukraine disregarding their own POWs as a liability, in turn they mistreat Russian POWs and use civilian cars and shit. They actually admit to doing all of it on Telegram and these big papers know that, they are sitting on the info until they can act shocked periodically at bad PR shit getting out like Zhorin throwing people into pits.
- Authoritarian boot licker. Disgusting.

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Only five bodies delivered to Belgorod morgue after mysterious Russian plane crash, Ukrainian intelligence suggests — CNN

Zelenskyy on the downing of Il-76: Ukraine will insist on an international investigation