Concerns raised over Ring's relationship with law enforcement and potential for racial profiling
Concerns raised over Ring's relationship with law enforcement and potential for racial profiling
They’re affordable and ubiquitous, but homeowners shouldn’t be able to act as vigilantes.
They’re affordable and ubiquitous, but homeowners shouldn’t be able to act as vigilantes.
In 1984 the people were forced to have cameras in their homes, so Big Brother could monitor everything,
In our world some people will actually pay for the privilege. Simply bizarre.
Sending footage to the cops because you saw a crime is just being a snitch, at worse. And being a snitch shouldn't be a bad thing when we are talking about property or violent crime happening in a neighborhood. No where related to being a vigilante. A vigilante would "fix the problem" then let someone else call the cops about the noise. Maybe also get it wrong and end up in jail.
Cops automatically pulling footage could be a concern. How the footage is used could also be a concern. Giving evidence to the cops about break-ins or package thief isn't.
No, I see only positives to the ring camera. Especially for states with those stupid stand your ground laws. The camera could show the difference between someone just knocking on the door and someone being an actual threat. I think a camera showing who broke into my car (or the neighbors car) is better than guessing at who the villains are.
If you see something, say something. If you capture it on video, even better just send it along and let the authorities deal with it. I don't see a problem here, unless you're planning on breaking the law. The racial aspect isn't something unique to this device and is just a weird hit, almost as if a competitor greased some keystrokes.
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This is a stretch. Apparently ring camera owners can send video to police and the article say they may be biased when they send things. I can see it a bit. Its like the person who is constantly complaining about kids hanging around sending video as opposed to someone sending video of an actual crime in action. I think police have to deal with this type of thing anyway but it likely does make it so convenient they will get that much more of it and it takes time to look over every single video.
@Haus I'm less concerned about the potential for homeowner's mis-use and much more concerned about that data being outside the control of the person who installed it. Personally, I like my smart home stuff to be self-hosted and self-contained and if I ever choose to share it that will be 100% my choice.
Exactly. It's why I set up a mycroft.ai server instead of alexa or whatever from amazon.
also, Ring is known to not necessarily require subpena's before they give LEO's access what really should be "your" data. Given the way things are going in certain parts of the country.... BE AFRAID.
the way Ring is set up, those cameras are more likely to cause you harm (by providing evidence against you. without you ever knowning) than they are to deter or stop a porch pirate or whatever it is you're concerned about.
I recommend against Ring devices because (in most cases) their reach extends beyond your own residence, adding to our already awful mass surveillance problem.