I can’t believe I’m siding with the South Park guys here
I can’t believe I’m siding with the South Park guys here
Shortly before opening, Casa Bonita’s new owners Matt Stone and Trey Parker decided to eliminate tipping and instead pay workers a flat wage of $30 per hour.
Now I could be wrong, but getting a an hourly wage as a restaurant worker is FAR better than relying on tips. I feel like either workers in this situation are too obsessed with tips or there’s huge context missing.
You're looking at a magazine called restaurant business online. They have another article about a bunch of people calling the protest of the Israeli PR person's restaurant "anti-semitic".
Yes, the workers are wrong. This is a better way to do it. Unfortunately, many waiters really do come out ahead with tipping, especially those working at higher end restaurants, conventionally attractive by euro standards, or just really good people skills, so they argue tipping is good actually. It benefits some individually, but collectively a lot do not end up with more money this way. It’s part of the whole pull yourself up by your bootstraps ideology - yes you theoretically could do better with tipping, but how many do, compared with the many who don’t? But of course restaurantbusinessonline would prefer business owners still be paying less than minimum wage, so they find those workers whose interests for whatever reason line up with theirs.
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some tipped workers come out ahead in effective wage, but it's fleeting and a bad way to organize society
i wouldn't put it past the park brothers to be screwing them over in some other way and the "return to tipping" is just sensationalized from the old benefits being better and "we want the previous deal" being easier to argue for as labor.
Extremely sus that this article doesn't report on the number of signatures on the petition.
this was back in july because they didn't have tipping AND weren't fully opened, making 30 an hour but just a couple days a week instead of the expected full week was pissing people off. not that tips would be the right solution
but i haven't heard anything since so i don't know how/if it's settled. hell i don't know if the place is fully open.
Lol if you're making $30 an hour in fucking Colorado, you're getting jack shit from me besides paying the bill.
Tips work out to more than $30/hr huh. Wonder if they were split with back of house or not?
Edit: Also the solution to the question of individual people getting less hours is to just make it a salaried position that pays out a fixed amount per month, so that everyone on average ends up working the same amount of dinner rushes/slow shifts etc.
I mean yeah? With the crazy high tipping percentages that are normalised in the USA (20% is a good tip? In South Africa the standard tip is 10%) when combined with how expensive restaurant food and drinks are, provided with the fact that tips are mostly cash so you can avoid paying tax (someone else in the comments has already mentioned photoshopping pay slips), good waiters and waitresses could easily make more than 30 an hour during peak hour shifts, and back themselves to make up the difference there vs earning a flat rate during both peak shifts and midweek slow shifts.
$30 an hour for a restaurant would be insanely high in my country, and our dollary-doos are only worth 2/3rds as much as US dollars, so this would be closer to $45 an hour for us. I can't imagine that actually being sustainable in any way for the business, so I'm guessing they have a lot of strings attacked (like you have to work insane hours or lose other worker's rights to make up for it.)
It could even be something that a lot of businesses do, where they still allow customers to tip, but don't give that money to the employees. That could be what they're arguing for.
EDIT: I do not know how much people are actually paid in the service industry in the US.
Now I could be wrong, but getting a an hourly wage as a restaurant worker is FAR better than relying on tips. I feel like either workers in this situation are too obsessed with tips or there’s huge context missing.
This is cunsoomer propoganda. The tipped wage allows unskilled workers to acheive the heights of middle income without getting college degrees and gives them a career path in retail, plus it makes excel spreadsheet workers and boomers pay extra.
You can make the arguement that "well actually that 20% should me baked into the price and that should go to the worker". Which is possibly the most delusional arguement a person could possible make. How many times have companies raised prices on their goods 20% due to increasing labor costs and how many of those companies actually have given that full amount to workers? Approximately 0.
If you abolished tipped wages tommorow and told bosses to raise prices to compensate they'd turn their workers into fast food workers and pocket the extra 20%. That's the fate of all non-tipped work.
If abolishing tipped labor for resturants was so good for workers then ask yourselves why all the fast food resturants with much higher profit margins and much leaner workforces get paid way, waaaaaay less than waiters.
The real communist politic is to keep the tip and abolish the tipped wage. If that makes restaurants more expensive than good, if a service can't be provided without poverty wages than it shouldn't exist.
I live in Colorado Springs and from my friends in the service industry downtown, I understand $35/hr is pretty typical for any not-slow day.
Lol what the fuck is that petition, there is no way 4.5k people work at Casa Bonita who would be affected by it when they don't even have 350 staff.
That means at least some part of the signatures are not employees but outsiders trying to speak for the employees.
Which also means that they might not even represent many employees to begin with! For all we know 99% of workers don't want to go back to tipping.
And going off the line at the bottom (although it is quite possible they are lying, management does lie often), it seems like that could potentially be the case. After all the article only identified two people who were upset.
Of 256 employees, 93 were a part of the shift and only two said they were unhappy about it, management said at the time.
The petition claims to have more than this but it also claims to have almost 5k signed on so it's pretty unreasonable.
I don't go out much, but when I do, I tip. I know the pay is shit, so I'll do my part until wages get better. If I knew a place had the option of getting 30/ hour and wanted to go back to tips, I sure wouldn't.
You dont have to agree with everything they do, but Southpark is the only show that are not afraid to discuss certains subjects. Dead Children should be mandatory to watch for every us citizens.
EDIT: In view of the many responses to this post, i'd like to add that if you really think south park is a right-wing show, you're showing your interchangeability. By that I mean that I firmly believe that people who are incapable of discussion and questioning their ideas are similar, no matter what side they're on. I'm convinced that if you'd been born in Texas into a conservative family, you'd be parading around in a pickup truck against drag queens in schools right now. It's simply a question of life context that makes you here now.
The complaints could be a result of $30 at or below full time employment. We could be looking at a Walmart Style situation where they are paying employees but keeping them at 32 hours or less to also avoid benefits.
I would want to know what are the employees actually saying.
Alternatively this could be a hit job, cause restaurants around the area - or business groups in general, want to avoid eliminating tipping for improved pay.
The servers have a genuine problem:
Restaurants have peak and off peak hours. Maybe between 5pm and 2am there’s two hours of dinner rush, a little break and an hour or so of late night pop. Maybe there’s five or six servers, a bartender and someone running seating or expo. Another poster brought up four tables an hour with $20 per table. Let’s say you got that relatively small section and that average tip works out. You come in at five, dinner picks up between six and eight, turn down the cut after dinner and there’s a late night pop at ten then you take a cut. That’s $240 for five hours of work.
Same situation but no tips and $30 hourly: you get $150 for that five hours and you draw the short straw and still take a post pop cut! What about when you end up taking the after dinner cut? That’s $90 bucks for working only the hard parts of the shift!
Let’s say you fight off the other servers and stay till two with the bartender: you get $270 but you have to do the closing work, you just worked nine hours and everything’s closed when you get out.
we need something more than an obscene and consumptive and spiritually dead socialism. unionization in the pursuit of better treats for middle class individuals in the first world is not getting us anywhere. the planet is burning and the future is bleak beyond belief
Tips are de facto tax free and some servers get paid so well "under the table" that they can buy a house on that shit