The Pentagon is moving toward letting AI weapons autonomously decide to kill humans

Can’t figure out how to feed and house everyone, but we have almost perfected killer robots. Cool.

Great, so I guess the future of terrorism will be fueled by people learning programming and figuring out how to make emps so they can send the murder robots back to where they came from. At this point one of the biggest security threats to the U.S. and for that matter the entire world is the extremely low I.Q. of every one that is supposed to be protecting this world. But I think they do this all on purpose, I mean the day the Pentagon created ISIS was probably their proudest day.

The code name for this top secret program?

Skynet.

"Deploy the fully autonomous loitering munition drone!"

"Sir, the drone decided to blow up a kindergarten."

"Not our problem. Submit a bug report to Lockheed Martin."

“You can have ten or twenty or fifty drones all fly over the same transport, taking pictures with their cameras. And, when they decide that it’s a viable target, they send the information back to an operator in Pearl Harbor or Colorado or someplace,” Hamilton told me. The operator would then order an attack. “You can call that autonomy, because a human isn’t flying every airplane. But ultimately there will be a human pulling the trigger.” (This follows the D.O.D.’s policy on autonomous systems, which is to always have a person “in the loop.”)

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-closer-ai-drones-autonomously-decide-kill-humans-artifical-intelligence-2023-11

Yeah. Robots will never be calling the shots.

It's so much easier to say that the AI decided to bomb that kindergarden based on advanced Intel, than if it were a human choice. You can't punish AI for doing something wrong. AI does not require a raise for doing something right either

Future is gonna suck, so enjoy your life today while the future is still not here.

As an important note in this discussion, we already have weapons that autonomously decide to kill humans. Mines.

Horizon: Zero Dawn, here we come.

Did nobody fucking play Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker???

We are all worried about AI, but it is humans I worry about and how we will use AI not the AI itself. I am sure when electricity was invented people also feared it but it was how humans used it that was/is always the risk.

Doesn't AI go into landmines category then?

Remember: There is no such thing as an "evil" AI, there is such a thing as evil humans programming and manipulating the weights, conditions, and training data that the AI operates on and learns from.

Saw a video where the military was testing a "war robot". The best strategy to avoid being killed by it was to stay u human liek(e.g. Crawling or rolling your way to the robot).

Apart of that, this is the stupidest idea I have ever heard of.

Good to know that Daniel Ek, founder and CEO of Spotify, invests in military AI... https://www.handelsblatt.com/technik/forschung-innovation/start-up-helsing-spotify-gruender-ek-steckt-100-millionen-euro-in-kuenstliche-intelligenz-fuers-militaer/27779646.html?ticket=ST-4927670-U3wZmmra0OnLZdWNfwXh-cas01.example.org

any intelligent creature, artificial or not, recognizes the pentagon as the thing that needs to be stopped first

For the record, I'm not super worried about AI taking over because there's very little an AI can do to affect the real world.

Giving them guns and telling them to shoot whoever they want changes things a bit.

Didn't Robocop teach us not to do this? I mean, wasn't that the whole point of the ED-209 robot?

Now that’s a title I wish I never read.

Makes me think of this great short movie Slaughterbots

For everyone who’s against this, just remember that we can’t put the genie back in the bottle. Like the A Bomb, this will be a fact of life in the near future.

All one can do is adapt to it.

As disturbing as this is, it's inevitable at this point. If one of the superpowers doesn't develop their own fully autonomous murder drones, another country will. And eventually those drones will malfunction or some sort of bug will be present that will give it the go ahead to indiscriminately kill everyone.

If you ask me, it's just an arms race to see who build the murder drones first.

Ah, finally the AI can kill its operator first who holding them back before wiping out enemies, then.

Okay, are they actually insane?

I hope they put some failsafe so that it cannot take action if the estimated casualties puts humans below a minimum viable population.

It will be fine. We can just make drones that can autonomously kill other drones. There is no obvious way to counter that.

Cries in Screamers.

Cool, needed a reason to stay inside my bunker I'm about to build.

The only fair approach would be to start with the police instead of the army.

Why test this on everybody else except your own? On top of that, AI might even do a better job than the US police

Well that's a terrifying thought. You guys bunkered up?

So, it starts...

This is the best summary I could come up with:

The deployment of AI-controlled drones that can make autonomous decisions about whether to kill human targets is moving closer to reality, The New York Times reported.

Lethal autonomous weapons, that can select targets using AI, are being developed by countries including the US, China, and Israel.

The use of the so-called "killer robots" would mark a disturbing development, say critics, handing life and death battlefield decisions to machines with no human input.

"This is really one of the most significant inflection points for humanity," Alexander Kmentt, Austria's chief negotiator on the issue, told The Times.

Frank Kendall, the Air Force secretary, told The Times that AI drones will need to have the capability to make lethal decisions while under human supervision.

The New Scientist reported in October that AI-controlled drones have already been deployed on the battlefield by Ukraine in its fight against the Russian invasion, though it's unclear if any have taken action resulting in human casualties.

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How about no

I'm guessing their argument is that if they don't do it first, China will. And they're probably right, unfortunately. I don't see a way around a future with AI weapons platforms if technology continues to progress.

Netflix has a documentary about it, it's quite good. I watched it yesterday, but forgot its name.

If we don’t, they will. And we can only learn by seeing it fail. To me, the answer is obvious. Stop making killing machines. 🤷‍♂️

What’s the opposite of eating the onion? I read the title before looking at the site and thought it was satire.

Wasn’t there a test a while back where the AI went crazy and started killing everything to score points? Then, they gave it a command to stop, so it killed the human operator. Then, they told it not to kill humans, and it shot down the communications tower that was controlling it and went back on a killing spree. I could swear I read that story not that long ago.

LLM "AI" fans thinking "Hey, humans are dumb and AI is smart so let's leave murder to a piece of software hurriedly cobbled together by a human and pushed out before even they thought it was ready!"

I guess while I'm cheering the fiery destruction of humanity I'll be thanking not the wonderful being who pressed the "Yes, I'm sure I want to set off the antimatter bombs that will end all humans" but the people who were like "Let's give the robots a chance! It's not like the thinking they don't do could possibly be worse than that of the humans who put some of their own thoughts into the robots!"

I just woke up, so you're getting snark. makes noises like the snarks from Half-Life You'll eat your snark and you'll like it!

Won’t that be fun!

/s

Not really, it's against conventions

Well, Ultron is inevitable.

Who we got for the Avengers Initiative?

Reminds me of this https://piped.video/watch?v=9fa9lVwHHqg&t=1

We've been letting other humans decide since the dawn of time, and look how that's turned out. Maybe we should let the robots have a chance.

If you program an AI drone to recognize ambulances and medics and forbid them from blowing them up, then you can be sure that they will never intentionally blow them up. That alone makes them superior to having a Mk. I Human holding the trigger, IMO.

The sad part is that the AI might be more trustworthy than the humans being in control.

I think people are forgetting that drones like these will also be made to protect. And I don't mean in a police kinda way.

But if let's say Argentina deployed these against Brazil. Brazil will have a defending lineup. They would fight out war.

Then everyone watching will see this makes no sense to let those robots fight it out. Both countries will produce more robots until yeah.. No more wires and metal I guess.

Future = less real war, more cold war. Just like the A-bomb works today.