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Hollywood’s Fight Against A.I. Will Affect Us All: Screenwriters, actors, authors, and artists are fighting to ensure that human beings are not shunted to the margins of our culture.

Hollywood’s Fight Against A.I. Will Affect Us All

Hollywood’s Fight Against A.I. Will Affect Us All: Screenwriters, actors, authors, and artists are fighting to ensure that human beings are not shunted to the margins of our culture.::Screenwriters, actors, authors, and artists are fighting to ensure that human beings are not shunted to the margins of our culture.

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Alexa, generate me an action movie that is a cross between Mission Impossible and The Matrix.
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Alexa, generate me an action movie that is a cross between Mission Impossible and The Matrix where the characters only have 5 fingers on each hand.
- Well if it was 6 fingers I know a guy looking for that guy. His name is Inigo Montoya. He killed his father, he should prepare to die.
Generative AI is coming for a lot more jobs than just writers and actors. We need to think of more creative solutions than “copyright harder”.
- Well said. IMO generative AI will be the death of most copyright and honestly, good riddance!
If AI can replace your writing you're not a very good writer. Specially our dumb little chatGPT. Maybe in a few years...maybe.
- It isn’t about ChatGPT. That’s just the consumer side of things people know.
  These strikes are about industry exploitation. For example, the actors are striking for, among other reasons, forced acceptance of deep fakes being created in their likenesses without payment, for unlimited use, in perpetuity.
  The writers wants actual residuals, as do actors, for streaming views. And directors and writers want performance information that they have traditionally been given so they can 1.) fact checking what they are being paid, and 2.) cater their content.
  Also, humans should never side with AI when it comes to a job. If and when it comes for them, it will also come for you. Google right now has successful pilots of their transformer models being used to train physical robots operating in meat space.
  It’s only a matter of time. Humanity needs to put a collar on this shit before it collars us. These “AI” should be tools we used not full blown replacements.
  
  I said this in another comment, but shit will get real weird if the courts determine that people don't have a right to their own likeness.
  People act like its solely about money too. What happens when I slightly modify your face with AI then use it for porn without your consent?
LMAO imagine thinking you can fight this.
If a robot is going to take your job, stop bitching to courts and either learn to use the tech to improve or find a new job.
This shit is happening, you can't put it back in the bottle, and you'll just be replaced by someone living with less restrictive laws.
Countries that join in this absurd protectionism will fall behind economically.
- The way a technology is regulated has a huge impact on society. Intellectual property is an artificial construct, completely created by regulations and has to be redefined for new technologies that interact with it. With AI, there are a lot of Questions regarding intellectual property that have to be answered, which will define who own and profits from it. Why shouldn't creators try to lobby for favourable laws?
  
  Because the rest of the world exists. Can you name a single technology that massively boosted productivity but was regulated at a global scale successfully? Do you think a country with low goods export is going to hamper it's competitive advantage because some highly paid (yes American writers are highly paid compared globally) Hollywood writer says this is bad?
  They have a term for this. Luddite.
How does this play out? I suppose the three options are pure AI content, mixed, or pure human. At a guess the unions/guilds will do their best to nix mixed. So let’s assume the extremes.
It’ll be interesting to see if consumers are willing to watch mostly our ai generated stuff and /or pay extra to see live humans act out stuff written by humans.
- The majority of people I know decide to watch a film based on what actors are in it. My mom and both my wife's parents basically will not watch a movie if they don't know any of the actors. Unless it's by accident or something, like it just happened to play on TV during the day or they were at a guests house.
I wish that people could fight it but it is not likely.
- Technically we could stop AI if we suddenly just destroyed all forms of power generation powering our world, but nobody is going to be able to pull that off.
- I think the opposite. We need to fight to embrace it so that all people have access to it. That is how to level the field. Or else they will use these cases to lock it away and then only the power brokers will have access to it. It'll become yet another tool for the rich and powerful to insulate against the rest of us. If we all have equal access or as close as possible then at least there will be more benefit and more ability to understand the capabilities.
  These cases will be used to lock the technology away from common people. Its a trojan horse
I really think the energy being spent on this strike, specially the AI demands, really is a fools errand. Even if the studios in the USA agree to no AI, it does not mean the rest of the world won’t use AI either. They will and they will create so much content that Hollywood will be a thing of the past.
The irony of this strike is now…more than any other time in history, the power is with the individual not the studios. An individual writer today is on the precipice of being able to work with AI to write, create, edit and produce any story they wish to tell. They are the studio now that are able to do the work of massive teams of people in the past. It is the studios that are most at risk here as they suddenly will be competing with individuals and you better believe that there is going to be some truly amazing content in many more genres than we have ever seen. a flood of content is coming. Sort of like how YouTube exploded content from small to bigger creators that only massive studios were Making previously. Got a story you want to tell…now is the time to start paying attention to AI developments as it is happening whether the USA laws/strikes want it to or not.
If you are a writer, I urge you to start using AI and learn how to produce your own content as fighting the change is time not spent adapting.
- The AI resistance just seems so goofy. I'm on the writers side here but can't agree with their AI assessment. It's not going to be blocked that's ridiculous.
  To think that free global market will somehow be united and refuse clear efficiency is dumb. How would you even prove that AI wasn't used in my movie? How will this be enforced?
  For a bunch of writers they sure fail to write out their own arguments huh
  
  Reading the article it seems that they are not trying to block AI, they just want their fair share of the IP if their likeness is going to be used.
  Seems completely reasonable to me. This shit is going to get weird if we declare that no one has the right to their own image. Imagine you get scanned and then all the sudden your face or one that looks almost exactly like it starts showing up in a bunch of pornos.

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