6d ago

Lawmakers decry 'horrific' conditions at Alligator Alcatraz after not-so-surprise tour

So, as expected, Auschwitz-like detention conditions. All Alligator Alcatraz is missing is the forced labor and the gas chambers.

Do we call America a Nazi country yet, or is it too soon?

Americans should hold their head in shame. And if they really want to be useful, bash it real hard against a wall until they can't vote anymore. They made this happen. AGAIN.

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I'm sorry?
Bash my head into a wall until I can't vote anymore?
Kindly fuck off. Sincerely. You're not helping. You're hindering.
Fuck off.
- Considering the trash Americans vote for when they vote and the misery that ensues, the world would be a better place if they didn't.
  Feel offended all you want, ask any foreigner and that's what they'll tell you. The rest the world is fed up to the back teeth with the US.
It's funny that we're like "America is acting like Nazi Germany" when back then the Nazis were taking notes from Americans. We committed genocide and eugenics and slavery and after a good night's rest we wake up and start talking shit about Nazis. Like they're the biggest fuck ups.
I'm pretty sure the official name is Alligator Auschwitz
- It's the term we need to use until it's generally accepted. Thanks for fighting the good fight.
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz directly ushered this timeline into existence way back in 2016. She's a craven, disgusting political crony and should have been banned from holding office after her shenanigans. Instead, she was allowed to scamper off and hide beneath HRC's skirt until the dust settled and the DNC's machinations were complete.
Everything being awful today can be directly tied back to Wasserman-Schultz and her ilk.
Well, two ways this can go.
Option 1: Yes, well you are a [insert name of country you are from], and despite that [insert thing the worst person from that country is doing that neither of us likes], so we are also fed up with you.
Cool, by acting exactly as you, now we both hate each other because of things other people are doing, despite neither of us being directly responsible for the things we jointly oppose.
Option 2: You think a little more about this and maybe understand that not every American is part of the problem, and in fact we're even more horrified than you because [looks around] we're living in the hell that's spoiling your nice view. And maybe you also realize it's pretty counterproductive to abuse, threaten and isolate the very people who are in America now and who agree that Trump is a cancer on this world.
If you can take a moment to wean yourself off the high of righteous indignation, you'd see we who are trapped here with Trump are the ones most directly being abused by him.
So why exactly are you doing the same as Trump and abusing us too? Don't you think you should also worry about the ethical implications of your own actions?
- not every American is part of the problem,
  While I understand that a lot of individual Americans are indeed the unfortunate victims of Trump, my point is that, as a nation, it's too easy to distance yourself from the outcome of the election. You may be a hard-core Democrat, a real traditional Republican - or indeed anything other than a MAGA Nazi, but if you're American, you own Trump. It's your mistake. It's too easy to profess democracy and free elections, and then complain that you didn't want that. You did want that. And you got it.
  What I'm saying is, while I feel for you as an individual human being who seem nice and reasonable, I lump you with the problem and I fully blame you for it as an American.
  the ethical implications of your own actions?
  You elected Trump and I should consider the ethical implications of my actions? That's rich!
  Get rid of your Nazi problem and then we'll talk. As long as Trump or any of his Nazi underbosses are in power, I have zero respect for Americans.
  
  I am and have been doing everything i am capable of to oppose the Trump administration and I'm doing it under threat of nationwide surveillance and gestapo. have you petitioned your government to sanction the US?
  
  What I’m saying is, while I feel for you as an individual human being who seem nice and reasonable, I lump you with the problem and I fully blame you for it as an American.
  You don't seem to understand that you certainly do not feel for me as an "individual human being who seem[s] nice and reasonable" if you think you have the right or moral ground to blame me for Trump because the people around me joined his cult - it's the diametric opposite of acknowledging me as an individual.
  You just seem to keep repeating "as a nation" as if that hand-waving abstraction somehow makes it sensible to blame every single person in America for Trump. Test your premise even a little. Are American children also responsible for Trump? What's the principle? Do they somehow gain the original sin of being an "American" and therefore culpable for Trump at 18? Is that midnight Eastern Time or Pacific Time? How about people who lost the right to vote? How about Americans who naturalized after the election? Is it getting complicated yet?
  Because that's life, it's complicated, and applying the label of "American" to two drastically different people doesn't somehow waive your duty to engage in moral inquiry before you engage in moral condemnation.
  
  I get you. Because I as a citizen of the world hold you personally accountable for Trump. Afterall, you as a human let your country let America do this. You should be ashamed.
  Your country yielded power to America, spending years allowing America to police the world, and dictate international trade. You can say you didn't want this, but you did want it, and you got it.
i sentence OP to 10 Overwatch ranked matches
:: Democrat politicians shaking the donation can:: Gee, these conditions sure are bad, wish there was something we could dooooooo ::can rattles::
If it was up to one certain party, they'd be in 5 star hotels instead..
- You’re a human being (I’m being generous in that assumption), fucking act like it.
  
  I'm an American who believes in enforcing immigration laws.... but fuck me right?

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