Can confirm, I am an adult and I'm sexually attracted to other adults.

I hope my wife never finds out that I originally started dating her because of my adult woman fetish.

Telling the mother of my children she's a milf and that's very cool by me.
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Guy I have a confession, I have a sick disgusting fetish...

Hexbear has gone WOKE

Satire is dead. I can't tell if the original is being ironic or sincere

Shameless pedophiles are just the worst.

I hope I don't catch flak for this, but part of me feels bad for adults attracted to minors that DON'T want to be. Like fuck shameless pedophiles that actively prey on children, but I'd image there's also people out there who quietly live with the disorder and fucks their life up. There was a documentary I watched by Louis Theroux once about a special prison just for pedophiles and it was kind of sad. Like it's obvious they weren't getting the help they needed inside and it was just a place to hold them so they wouldn't be murdered in prison. The only real way out was voluntary chemical castration and come on that's pretty barbaric.
It sucks you can't approach or talk about these people without the baggage of violent pedophiles who actually hurt people.
idk hope I'm not too off base here.
- You're not off base at all. Being attracted to children is not the issue here (and people shouldn't be stigmatized for that alone). The real issue is the willingness to traumatize others just for a few minutes of pleasure, which isn't exclusive to pedophiles.
  But because this whole topic so incredibly emotionally charged, people really can't differentiate between those 2 things, which makes any sort of discussion pretty much impossible.
- I agree with you, "pedophile" and "child abuser" aren't synonyms and pedophilia itself is a mental illness, I don't see why anyone would "choose" to be a pedophile and we absolutely should at least try to help non-offenders who want to get better.
  However you seemingly can't bring this up without getting labelled a pedo sympathiser so I just don't bother anymore.
- I read an article a long while ago about a group of people who were sexually attracted to children, and didn't want to be. It was really sad. But a key thing was they weren't abusing anyone and didn't want to. I don't think those people deserve to be crucified. It's better if they can reach out for help. I think right now if someone admitted what their involuntary response was, they'd be lumped in with the worst sorts of abusers.
- If you want to reduce occurences of abuse I think it would make good sense to make sure that pedophiles had easy and anonymous access to non-judgemental therapy. We would like as many as possible to seek professional help.
  As for those actually convicted of abuse the same principle applies, they need help, not just for their own sake but certainly also for the children's sake.
- I mean, it shows empathy, which is one of the most important things to have
  We can't have a functioning society if everyone is constantly suspecting each other of being a "deviant" which is exactly why the old canard of "Think about the children!" comes from
  Personally, I'm a lot more worried about the men who beat their step kids to death, the women who starve their children and a government which allows any of this to happen
- So heres the thing. If someone is in prison for it, it means they commited a crime. Thoughts are not crimes. Feelings are not crimes. Those people did an action that got them in prison. Just like you can want to murder somebody, but not do it because you know murder is bad.
  Would it be nice if we had a society where the people silently suffering could go get the help they need, and get their mind right? Yeah. But those people in prison deserve to be there. Never forget that. Even if those people were to be somehow magically made to not be pedophiles anymore they would STILL be a danger to society. The crimes they commited reflect their own wants, but their willingness to commit the crime is another matter entirely. IMO the punishment for the crimes those people committed should be execution. Chemical castration is way too merciful.
  So you are right that the underlying chemical imbalance, or whatever causes it isn't something that should doom someone. It's not their fault they're attracted to what they are. BUT it is their fault if they act on it, and they don't deserve your sympathy.

Minus ten points for the slur, but plus a hundred points for having some common sense and morals.

Hence why I censored it, trying to find a good post from 4chan without slurs is the needle in the haystack.

I mean gamers normally have under-age fetish so an adult woman can only be a fetish for them.

I wish Japan wasn't so comfortable with outright pedophilia. It's hard to find works from the country that don't go into uncomfortable territory when it comes to minors.
- I quit playing fire emblem because of that. I forget exactly which one, it was in the Ds/3ds era, but it was a fun enough tactics game until suddenly they introduce the "I'm a thousand year old dragon that only looks like a 6 year old girl in a bikini" character
  
  I didn't keep playing after that
- The anime culture around loli and shit are bizarre but what really bothered me was the story of Nobuhiro Watsuki, the author of Rurouni Kenshin, that got caught with tons of CSAM, so much that people think that he didn't only consume that shit but produce it and distributing it. This garbage human being is still praised and the vast majority of mangakas drew shit tons of art for the commemoration of whatever many years of Rurouni Kenshin.

what the fuck does it say about us on the fact these dumbfucks run circles around us in every culture war?

The entire media apparatus is built to give them a platform while diminishing ours. They are given near unlimited resources to spread hateful bullshit and if any leftist movement starts to gain traction it will be brutally and violently suppressed. It's not that they're winning the "culture war" it's that the powers that be want people to be dumb and hateful, so they give the dumbest and most hateful people a megaphone to spread those views.
In a "level playing field" their nonsense would be laughed out of the room and they would be relentlessly mocked for their bad takes.
They're not publically dunked on hard enough. They will keep winning as long as normals still think these people are just like them.
Pretty bleak stuff.
Culture wars are based on passion. The more wrong you are the harder you have to have to work to maintain it. The immense pressure of that sharpens the mind like a knife. It is like trying to fight a deep sea fish underwater.
Mods are holding us back.
- See what I mean?