Idiocracy is a lame movie and not as deep as redditors and lemmites makes it out to be.
Idiocracy is a lame movie and not as deep as redditors and lemmites makes it out to be.
It's basically a comedy with the subtlety of a guy repeatedly screaming "I am beating you with a sledgehammer" as he hits you with a sledgehammer.
The joke is that everyone is dumb and the future and its painfully spoon-fed to the audience ad nusuesm. And now 15 years later everyone constantly brings up that movie when ever something happens and its the most over commented thing I've ever seen. It makes me hate the movie more. Its the peak movie for pseudo intellectuals.
That's the thing: there's nothing to interpret. The movie depicted a intellectual stunted world...and the world has moved toward the movie. That's it. That's the whole thing. There's nothing deep about it.
The problem with comparisons between the movie and real life is that there are still plenty of people of intelligence behind the scenes making our lives miserable.
The world of idiocracy is basically the result of accidental eugenics. "Smart people" don't have babies, so only dumb trailer trash has babies, so the world gets dumber. That's not how the real world works, people who were born to families living in trailer parks or low-income housing have just as much of a chance to be smart as those born to the rich... as long as they have the same opportunities. For the most part, they don't, but there's a minority that still gets grants and scholarships and just luck to become the "smart elite" that don't exist in the world of Idiocracy.
This is a bit of a controversial topic that's surely bigger than this thread, but I'm going to leave it here anyway for other people reading this.
You talk about trailer parks/low income families vs rich families, but I think that Idiocracy is not about income, it's about being dumb. Part of which is just cultural (ignorance), but part of it seems to be intelligence. And as far as I know, there's no evidence that any kid can become as intelligent as anyone else with proper raising and education. Research seems to pretty clearly show that IQ is heritable to a significant degree, and while it can be needlessly lowered in many ways (like malnutrition or high stress in critical development phases), in the absence of these issues no enrichment is able to raise it.
Despite how controversial it is in some circles, the Wikipedia article on the topic seems to be pretty good.
However, since the movie really is not deep, it's possible that its whole point was just that the idiocy is cultural, and in that case the above obviously doesn't apply. I'm just saying what it seemed like to me.
I have never once heard someone call this movie subtle though. The opening credits literally have Mike Judge saying "this is what I see happening right now and this movie is a warning of what things could be like if they continue."
This is an unpopular opinion because it is a wrong opinion. True about the subtlety part tho
The point is that the movie is extremely stupid and yet still we can find parallels between our world and this dumb movie. Our reality is fucking dumb. Nothing pseudo intellectual about it.
It's on the same level as Office Space (another Mike Judge movie), it just has a lot of moments in it that people see in their own lives and can point to the movie as art imitating life imitating art. No one has really ever called either movie cerebral or claimed they were deep, they're just really relatable to alot of people. Given that he also worked on King of the Hill as well, that's been kind of common thread through alot of his work, comedy for the "everyman".
Except in this case, instead of art imitating life imitating art, it might be life imitating art imitating life? :-P
No one has really ever called either movie cerebral or claimed they were deep
Ii definetely disagree on that point, there were plenty of folks on reddit who treated this movie like it was a documentary and that it was required watching for understanding the faults in our actual society
That being said, I agree with everything else you said, some people just aren't good at separating "I like this" from "this is important"
Absolutely it's as subtle as a safe dropped onto your head. The point made isn't made any less valid by being exaggerated - satire does that sometimes.
And Idiocracy being deep is not something I hear a lot, where in the world has that been a common take?
If you think fans of this movie are pseudo intellectuals, I think that says a lot more about you than them
"ad nusuesm"
Op is an idiocracy
Who the fuck calls it deep?
Fuck you, I’m eating
And now 15 years later everyone constantly brings up that movie when ever something happens
No, that's not why people bring this movie up, but your odd description is sort of proving their point.
It wasn't trying to be subtle and wasn't trying to be deep. The people who like it now are those that can relate to seeing the world lean further into the jokes about society getting stupider.
Nobody is trying to be intellectual when they bring up this movie.
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it's hard to rail against that film without sounding like the guy on his toilet chair watching his television and eating his cheese, telling everyone to shut up
I've always thought of it like this: the concept of the movie is great, and pretty prophetic. All of the worldbuilding and exposition falls under that. But, as for the plot, it's pretty forgettable and doesn't stand out too much. Frankly I don't even remember what Luke Wilson's character does in the film -- I just remember the film's concept.
You’re not wrong. I don’t think anything Mike Judge has ever done should be necessarily labeled as deep. I think there is still some funny commentary in it.
Mike Judge is legendary at character development. I'd have him as my first choice in designing a town of misfits or a group of people for a sitcom or a film.
For the plot and overall structure, I'd look elsewhere.
But, it's got electrolytes!
Has someone actually told you they think this movie is deep?
Striker really gets unpopular opinions.
You are correct this is a unpopular opinion. The movie is good. You just don't like that you don't understand why other people enjoy it. BAD BOT!
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The intro is funny, that's about it.
My objection to it is that it seems that its subject and its target audience are essentially the same people.
I guess. I've never watched the film myself m8. But comedy's subjective innit what some people may find funny some others may not
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My question is what should the audience take away from the movie, what's the message? Is it that certain people shouldn't have kids because it will drag society down?
Because that's just straight up eugenics.
My question is what should the audience take away from the movie, what’s the message?
My opinion as an individual in this society is, that our objective in life living is, to not just laugh at a farting ass, but to also trying to find out, to whom the farting ass belongs as an individual.
No, the peak movie for pseudo-intellectuals is The Matrix.
The comment section on the trailer on YouTube really is something else. The lack of self awareness is astonishing.
Why is this movie great? It’s accurate AF, that’s why!
What’s the stupidest pair of footwear you can imagine? Probably, maybe Crocs?? If that was your answer, it was also the costume designer and Mike Judge’s thought too…which is why everyone in the future wears them.
…now to address the “why is it great”
Walk outside and tell me more than half the people you meet aren’t fucking retards. Then look down and you will see at least half of those idiots are wearing Crocs. Mike Judge=Nostradamus? 🤔 Maybe
I literally just posted this thing a minute ago and it already has two dowmvotes. I am guessing this is a real hot take lol.
Complaining that a farce lacks subtlety is a hot take.
What’s next, superhero movies lack realism?
Lol, look how right I am
The people who think its a prediction or the direction society is headding are directly the type of people the film is making fun of. Similar to the people who get pissed off at Monty Python's "Life of Brian", both films make simple points (Idiocracy points out a misunderstanding on how education and general intelligence work, and runs with it. Life of Brian directly ridcules people who are bad listeners) and their detractors just sorta walk into the point the film was trying to make in the first place.
Also in Idiocracy, Terry Crews's character knows they dont understand something, they find someone who knows more on the subject than they do, and listens to them. That is the single most unrealistic part of the film. /s