What are your thoughts on fiber through the city?

I am indifferent...while I agree that it should be, I think ISPs should be absorbed into the government and made as a service like power/water. I'm sick of the big 2 here raping everyone and acting like it's our fault that we got raped.

I refuse to get fiber until resellers are allowed to use the infrastructure that the citizens already paid for but is held by a monopoly.

50gbps down and 10gbps up

LOL

You probably meant 50mbps down and 10mbps up

I spent many years working building and maintaining fiber networks, and I can unequivocally tell you that the answer to this is maybe. Normally you can treat city fiber just as any other ISP. A lot of them have different rules and different thresholds on what they allow and what they do not allow. Fiber networks are extremely expensive to build. So while you definitely need to protect the multi-million dollar investment you've made, depending on how you've built it it can be a little tricky to police what everyone is doing.

What's interesting is just because you are not receiving notice of a DMCA infraction, that does not mean that your ISP has not received a notice. There is this idea that if you are not set up for it it is difficult to track out what account held what IP 30 days prior or 60 days prior. That is kind of a BS excuse, but I have been at companies that did not have logging because they did not want to have logging.

We did collect email notices and pass them around though weekly to see who could find the most absurd DMCA takedown. So I will say, if you were pirating some weird ass mommy fetish furry porn everyone in that call center knows it and is laughing about it.

All the possibilities are up to your vpn.

We had fiber at our previous house for about six years, and it was great. The prices were lower, the speeds were greater, there were no limits... It's kind of funny, because it was a college town of about 200K people in the middle of nothing else.

Now I'm up in the suburbs of Chicago where a single town can have a 200K population, but fiber is nowhere on the horizon. Instead we get terrible service that's constantly showing packet loss with slow transfer rates. We do still have unlimited, but with these transfer rates it doesn't really matter. :)

As far as monitoring traffic goes, I guess it depends on how you're doing things. If your DNS requests are still hitting your ISP or aren't encrypted, then yeah, they might know. I don't know if they'll care, but of course not all illegal content is treated the same.

So basically a non-answer to your question, along with me saying I liked having fiber.

ive been making jokes about 'fiber to the desktop' since 1996. funny we still are not quite there are we. so close!

in my experience, the faster the pipe, the less inspection. its a cost thing.. when we were paying 500$/moonth for a 64k pipe (yeah thats right), you bet your ass we're going to sit on people doin illegal/hogging shit. every bit was expensive. when we updated to 1.54mbps t1 things got slightly more lax, but still, usage mattered, hence DPI, packet shaping and the like. when broadband came people just stopped paying attention.

You poor Americans :( In Europe I can get 1Gbps for around 25 Euro/month from a local (they only operate in my town) ISP. Each town has one or two of them. On top of that you have the big ones like Orange. I could choose from probably 10 different providers. New buildings just come with fiber preinstalled. Just plug in the router and enjoy.

50gbps down and 10gbps up

holy shitballs...

Municipal fibre is the only good ISP I've ever had. Communities around Colorado are rolling it out. I pay like $70/mo for 1gb/s, consistently get 300-600mb/s download speeds, haven't had any downtime in a year, and zero piracy warnings using public trackers without a VPN.

cries in Australian NBN

I have a residential 25Gbit/s connection and although I only use 15 gbit of it for my server it is really a godsend for torrenting, hosting and running several relays and nodes for different networks.

Fiber internet multiplied my connection speeds by six for about the same price I was paying, and this is before wired connections. This is a hell yeah from me.

I had gig up / gig down fiber at a previous house.. it was amazing.. never went down always has bandwidth no matter what I was doing or who was streaming. I (used to) do a lot of uploading to users for media and I never had a hiccup.

Get it.. and get the fastest you can afford. You'll love it.

Also no they won't be paying attention anymore than a standard isp. Tho.. if you're.worried about it.. just get a decent VPN.

Good luck op! Consider me jealous

The best model in my opinion is if a municipality lays the fiber, then opens the infrastructure up for renting under FRAND terms to all ISPs. When I say infrastructure here, I mean both the fibers and the associated rack space on the other end of the fibers, including power and cooling.

Regarding the specific questions in your post body; I think you should be fine, because a smaller ISP is not as much of a target for intellectual property enforcement, and they probably won't have a big compliance team like the big ISPs can afford.

Am I mistaken, or did you want to say 50mbps and 10mbps? 50gbps seems way above what a wireless network can do.

For a vpn, your connection through wireless or fiber is exactly the same. The city only provides the fiber infrastructure. When you get Internet, it's through a provider which will use their equipments and main network (they link their network to the city infrastructure, using their devices. At least, it's how it works in France). Unless the provider is the city.

Tho I guess that providers do give data to the state so whatever the case, it would be the same thing.

Well quite frankly with all the meat people consume, they'll certainly need help passing it. I recommend state provided salads.

How can your ISP do anything like that? How can they even circumvent VPNs? What country are you in? China?