Luigi Mangione's legal defense fund hits $1 million in donations
Luigi Mangione's legal defense fund hits $1 million in donations

Luigi Mangione's legal defense fund hits $1 million in donations

Luigi Mangione's legal defense fund hits $1 million in donations
Luigi Mangione's legal defense fund hits $1 million in donations
And if they located him via illegal means, none of that is admissable...
That's the chink they need to hammer on.
The woman who "called it in" did so because some random man walked up to the counter, identified Luigi to the worker, told her there was a large reward and she should call.
The chances of that truly being a random person who recognized him, and wanted him turned in, but didn't want to make the call themselves is astronomical.
And that's not getting into how unbelievable fast the response was.
Whatever means they actually used to locate him, they can't say. So you hammer their unbelievable explanation and ask the jury if they believe it, or if it sounds like a cover story.
It blows a giant hole in the prosecution's case, and raises doubts about the entire investigation
A cynic would say they intentionally choose a minimum wage worker to fracture the working class.
Especially with trump in office and the pressure he'll put on the DOJ, this trial could be a breaking point.
If it comes up the cops (more likely feds) set that up, it's not only going to get Luigi free, it might actually lead to the 99% fighting back in the class war that's been going on here longer than America has been a sovereign country.
trump won't be able to handle Luigi walking free, and he's gonna over reach
Pfff, they're not gonna give em both
Devil's advocate and IANAL, but illegally obtained evidence can still be admitted so long as at some point there was a legal means to obtain it. I'm sure there's a ton of nuance that goes into the specifics and especially regarding this case, but it's not like that stuff is completely tossed out of it was found illegally.
Also not a lawyer.
This legal doctrine is called Fruit of the Poisonous Tree and there are specific exceptions that can be made for it. According to its wikipedia page:
That said though, half this page is appended with [Citation Needed] so I maybe wouldn't take that as gospel.
Can you explain why it was through illegal means? I don't get that part.
If they found him via legal means, then that's the way they would have said they found him
A mystery man telling a woman at the counter to call before leaving minutes before swat moved in would just be a huge coincidence.
They knew he was on the bus and where it was stopping and they prepared for him.
But hey, maybe I missed something. But as far as I can remember law enforcement lost the benefit of the doubt a long time ago. I just don't trust the police in general at this point.
There are a bunch of laws outlining how governments can collect evidence. Yhere are some methods that are illegal. If they used a method prohibited by law, the evidence is unusable. If the violation to obtain the evidence is severe enough the cop gets charged.
Because it is nonsense.
The crux of their argument is that it is too implausible that someone would decide Luigi was probably the shooter, be aware of the reward, and still ask a random employee to call it in. ANYONE who has worked a public facing job in food services or even a frigging grocery store has had plenty of "concerned citizens" tell them to be a cop.
But, because that is implausible, it must mean that this was some huge conspiracy theory where a paid actor faked a call because the government used some super illegal search method instead (as opposed to just palantir or whatever).
It is complete nonsense and is just a few notches below "jet fuel can't melt steel beams".
But doesn't that just affect his state charges? Aren't his federal charges the one that are the real issue?
Tainted evidence is tainted evidence...
Like, if the state illegally finds proof you committed a crime, so they can't use it, that doesn't mean the feds get to. So let's say the stuff in his backpack was already in there, and there is some plausible explanation for all the "smoking gun" evidence to not have been noticed till like 11 hours later...
No one can use what was in the backpack if they were led to it via illegal methods.
It's just inadmissible and the prosecutors have to deal with losing it if they can't show a parallel investigation had a reasonable chance of discovering it.
The gun, forgery, and ID; maybe. How he was "found", no