Excel logic

Not OP, but let's make this better:
PS: i doubt anyone here would honestly say "damn, that's beyond my skill", which goes to show that "not everyone can draw" is a bullshit argument for using AI to make comics
- Most of the time it took me do this since I posted your image as a meme, and this one I made, was installing a phone app, realizing it wasn't installing because I have it configured to not install with mobile data, then learn how the app works + I used my finger (a simple touchpen is cheap af to the point it sometimes comes with some regular pens, I have one but it's broken lmao). Hella easier on PC with a mouse and my PC shortcuts, or with a working touchpen, imo, but easy as fuck anyways.
  Edit: I forgot to add the last guy his arms crossed or something, I should just go sleep XD
  
  Last panel has strong Carl vibes
- The glass is floating in the air. The excel character says something without a speaking bubble. Looks kinda souless.
  Probably just AI slop.
  
  I've been exposed! 🤖
  
  Probably just AI slop.
  You just gotta ask another AI to fix it.
  
  Clippie: it appears that your trying to something or another blah blah blah jackidy shmackidy.
  
  If you're going to pout, we can put you in the corner. That might be funny.
- This is so much better. Thank you for spending the roughly 5 minutes to make this that OP should have spent instead of barfing out some soulless junk.
- god this feels so much more fucking alive
- I'll learn blender just to make this a scene. BRB 1 weened
- How could you tell that was AI? I honestly just thought that was a drawing
  
  There's quite a discussion about that further elsewhere in this thread. To me, the combination of vector-like thick lines with that background color, the characters having such mute expressions and there not being one actual optimist.
  Others also pointed to the "weirdness" that is the lines of the characters' arms becoming part of the table, which I didn't notice at first.
  Perhaps more importantly, it does not look like the "author" has "zero drawing skill", but actually knows how to make vector art, even if relatively simple. That makes the problems more glaring

Someone explain to me why i have a sense for ai? This is like the fourth time this week i see an ai image and i spotted it even tho at first i hadnt seen the mistakes the ai made. Something just feels off in ai pictures and i cant really pin down what it is. But when i see one i can just spot it for some reason.
- Uncanny valley. The AI gets things right overall, but not enough that you don't realize somerhing is wrong.
  For me it's the arms being fused with the table,pessimist only having one arm, the faces that feel too generic/soulless (like, they barely change between pesimist and excel), the "optimist" being the glass and not another character...
  
  The glass is also weirdly large considering it looks like it should be at roughly the same distance as the people.
- I noticed that the new image model doesn't like pure white backgrounds.
  
  It's become such a reliable tell that I'm genuinely curious why AI seems to think that cartoon images MUST look like they're drawn on old paper.
  EDIT: The AI answer I got when asking Google was about what I'd expect, but this last bit I hadn't considered:
  Sepia tones can help unify the color palette of an image, making it more visually cohesive and pleasing. This could be a factor in the AI's decision to use sepia, as it can contribute to a sense of order and harmony in the generated image.
  So it uses it to try and make it more visually appealing to a wide audience, leading to it looking even more bland and uninspired.
- How do you determine that something is AI?
  
  The uncanny valley. It looks overall right, but some details don't feel quite right even if you dln't know which ones.

I can sense AI now.

Scientists rename human genes to stop Microsoft Excel from misreading them as dates
Sometimes it’s easier to rewrite genetics than update Excel
Aug 6, 2020
https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/6/21355674/human-genes-rename-microsoft-excel-misreading-dates
- Best thing is, they introduced some settings to turn that auto-conversion off and they don't work 🤣 can't make that stuff up.
  
  I mean, I know of a Microsoft product that allows for a batch import of data provided in an Excel file. You need to use their template file. Which, when used, automatically formats all dates the American way, ignoring your locale settings. Depending on which date is first encountered on import (e.g. which date you entered in the first line) then designates whether the whole file is imported with dates read as MM/DD/YYYY or DD/MM/YYYY.
  You start your list on January 1st? It will import everything as MM/DD/YYYY then. You start you list on e.g. January 22nd? DD/MM/YYYY it is then. Good luck getting that import running without errors...
  
  Nothing works in Excel. Excel will do what it wants.
  But that doesn't stop the MS support and a thousand stupid people from claiming "oh, you just have to format it as text, are you dumb or what"...

Why the fuck is the glass talking
- Freedom of speech I assume.

Was this made by ai? It looks soulless, and the coffee cup is talking.
- Who drinks coffee out of a transparent pint glass?
  
  Me if I don't think properly.
- the coffee cup is talking
  Yours don't?
  
  No, I misspoke. My water cups talk.

Honestly, for a community (lemmy) that wanted to get away from corporate stuff (reddit) it pains me to see how even the most basic thing to draw is being delegated to Ai (corporations).
- I've come to the conclusion in the last couple weeks I simply can't identify AI images anymore. I have no clue what about this makes everyone call it out as AI, and there's have been many such instances of this happening with me lately. I'm going to get modern day Nigerian princed when I'm older I can feel it in my bones
  
  The reason this one is blatant AI is that the imagery doesn’t make any sense. Why is the glass of water itself the optimist?
  
  Most of it for me is the font. It seems like chatgpt likes to use the same font for everything
  It also kind of feels off somehow. I can't explain. it, but there's just something wrong with this image
  
  A year ago ai couldn't even make any sort of recognisable text, now it can do it flawlessly
  
  Same here. I did not think twice about this picture or a few other posts in the past and yet there are pitchforks in the comments and I think to myself "What are you all on about?". I rue how unrecognizable AI "slop" has gotten.
- How do you know this is AI ?
  
  Because the glass is the one saying "the glass is half full"
- Not all AI is from corporates
- I hate this take. Not everyone can afford to pay for art or have the ability to draw.People need to get off AI's back and instead of complaining, figure out how to deal with it. Because it's not going anywhere.
  
  You are aware that even if you make stickmans, people will appreciate it if the meme is good, right?
  
  Not everyone ... have the ability to draw
  I'm pretty sure anyone can draw stick figures.
  Because it's not going anywhere.
  A lot of bad things are "not going anywhere". We can still try to have less of them.
  
  Don’t talk about ability to draw as though it’s some sort of elitist trait denied to the working class. People who can draw can do so because they put the hours in.
  If you can’t be bothered putting the effort in when expressing yourself, why the hell should anyone else be interested in what you have to say?
  
  AI is like a housefire. Nobody wants it. Nobody needs it. It's just a bad thing, and if someone sees it, they're more than justified in being upset and trying to get rid of it. Don't defend the fire, or you'll be the first to burn.
- thing to draw is being delegated to Ai (corporations).
  But, not all AI is corporate run, there's plenty of AI models to choose from that are open source including image generation models
  And actually, image generation models are much easier to run on "affordable" consumer hardware than LLMs
  
  If they don't have the training data available, then I wouldn't consider them open source.
  
  Which model did you use to generate this, and what tool did you use?

January second for the Yanks.
- What, Medium/Small/Large order seems off to you??
  
  You're assuming that I'm not a Yank? Let me tell you, I can Yank with the best of them, and I do!
  
  Look bud, you can't call it "February second" in conversation, write it down as "Second February" in writing, and then get mad at us Yanks about it. Pick a lane.
  
  12/31/9999
- Oh, so THAT'S why they brought Excel into this! I didn't make the connection and just thought Excel would even consider a glass of water a date.
  
  A human artist might have said "1/2 full" instead of "half full" but LLMs don't understand jokes so there's no hope they'll be able to make the joke easier

Yesterday I laughed at this, today Excel stripped leading zeros from a sheet of UPCs and converted them to floating point.
Also format as Text apparently means nothing

Who asked the glass?
- the AI that generated the image!
  
  oh cmon this is just a line drawing, surely no one asked an AI to create a line drawing right?

it's funny how you can tell at a glance exactly what model generated this image, just based off the background color
- just based off the background color
  ... white?
  
  technically I guess it's between Cosmic latte and Desert sand
  or "light grayish yellow"
  ..I had to look those up but it's definitely not a plain white
- you
  No I can't. Have you considered you might be beyond normal smart about this stuff?
  
  well it's supposed to be the "passive" you (or "indeterminate" you)
  but I think anyone can learn to notice the pattern of comics with this particular odd color style ^(assuming ^you ^would ^want ^to ^learn ^it ^for ^some ^reason, ^and ^if ^we ^ignore ^color ^blindness ^or ^other ^similar ^problems ^etc)
  
  The old way of saying that is close to obsolete. One now must take it from context whether the "you" means you or one.
- Also why is the glass talking wtf?
- Well which one is this one? (This was a crosspost so I don't know lmao)
  
  The new one by openai, "gpt-4o image generation"