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  • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe MSRP at release (and also still now) was $60. Since the previous Mario Kart game they increased the price by 50%. That’s fucking insane.

    Also, hot take, I don’t give a fuck about inflation; Games should cost less now than they did 20 years ago. The audience is bigger and the per unit cost is lower. You can make more money releasing the exact same game now than you could 20 years ago. They should cost less.

    “Oh but ClimateChangeAnxiety, games cost more to make now!” No they don’t. You’re choosing to spend more to make them. You’re choosing to hire larger teams to make larger games with better graphics. Don’t do that. Make them the same way you did in 2010.

    You have better tools now, you can make the same products you made in 2010 with less labor today. Do that. And charge less.

    • I want shorter games with worse graphics and I'm not kidding

    • The video game industry is bigger than Hollywood. Imagine if they were charging $90 for a BluRay.

    • The audience is bigger and the per unit cost is lower. You can make more money releasing the exact same game now than you could 20 years ago. They should cost less.

      How're those poor executives gonna buy a third yacht? Gotta buy back stock with that excess capital to drive up prices for their own stock options shareholders, did you ever think of that

    • “Oh but ClimateChangeAnxiety, games cost more to make now!” No they don’t. You’re choosing to spend more to make them. You’re choosing to hire larger teams to make larger games with better graphics. Don’t do that. Make them the same way you did in 2010.

      You have better tools now, you can make the same products you made in 2010 with less labor today. Do that. And charge less.

      Outside of niche games and genres, those would sell poorly. Mainstream consumers will absolutely not accept stagnation. This argument always comes up with regards to game franchises that had their heyday 10-20 years ago, and the answer is the same. A lot of those games had mechanics, progression skips, and glitches that would be considered unacceptable in the modern market. That was fine back then as the internet and YouTube were no where no where near as big as they are today, so the knowledge of game breaking progress skips, extremely overpowered builds, and glitches was contained through obscurity. You had to either phone a hotline (remember those) or go on a niche internet forum to find out about these things. That's not possible anymore, someone will post a YouTube video within 24 hours of the latest exploit and it would be all over the internet within a few days. I say this as someone who is a huge fan of those older games and still plays them today.

      The only series I've seen revive itself by making the same kind of game it made 15 years ago was Ace Combat, a niche franchise that was in a poor situation in the first place, because it tried to enter the mainstream and failed with it's Call of Duty clone with airplanes game.

      And besides that, the Switch and Switch 2 is already a constrained platform. Most flagship smartphones are more powerful than the Switch 2. Nintendo is the only party around making games under such hardware constraints. That's because ever since the GameCube, they failed to compete against PlayStation and Xbox on the processing power front. So Nintendo competes in hardware niches, motion control with the Wii, and the portable factor with the Switch. Nintendo is the company making games with the technical complexity of those made 5-10 years ago. So if they're charging more, that means the industry is in big trouble. GTA 6 $100?

      And to be completely honest, this stuff (consumer electronics and video games) has always been that expensive outside of the western/first world sphere. Cheap consumer goods in the western world is possible because of globalised neoliberal capitalism, a system that is now dead. The 2009 financial crisis was the big blow, and afterwards Obama, Merkel, Macron, Cameron, Abe, they all tried to revive this system and failed. COVID and the resulting inflation was the death knell. The Trump administration in the USA is trying to lessen the blow (for the USA) by taking direct control of the world's oceans and key points, along with tarrifs. If consumer electronics are considered expensive now, just wait for what the next decade has in store. So many potential flashpoints.

      • I don’t agree. Maybe 2010 was a stretch, that’s still PS3/360 time, but let’s say 2013/2014 instead, early PS4 era.

        I’ve been replaying GTA V and Wolfenstein: The New Order recently and outside of some UI and QoL changes I think those games could be released today and be hugely successful.

        Obviously GTA V was, at the time, basically the new record for size and scope, but that record has been beat since and didn’t have to be.

        Now you’ve got me interested in looking at this so I’m gonna go down the list of big games released those years and see how we feel about them. I really hope this doesn’t come off as me being a dick I just got curious and wanted to see.

        Very few of those would do poorly now aside from the fact that their core gameplay is a bit stale now, but that’s not something that requires more labor and increasing scope, that’s just trends.

    • but it costs server money to run our panopticon skynet skinchanging marketplace to sell your data

    • Also the fuck you mean 90? We just jumped up from 60 to 70 a couple years ago. You can try 80 in 2030.

  • every game company wants to increase the base price of aaa games

    Nintendo will do it first, giving everyone else cover to follow

    by next year it will be accepted for aaa games to cost $80 and have a $120 deluxe edition and a $60 season pass

    not surprising tbh

  • Lol.

    Don't forget to check the emulation thread!

    • I hope it's not too much of a hassle to support it, since it's the same ISA and all. Graphics and os would probably be the bigger hurdle I think

      • Initially it's going to be people concerned about the legal action taken against Yuzu and the ??? (buyout and/or legal threat- still unclear) that the main Ryujinx devs encountered.

        I'm hoping people in less-affected regions take up the mantle and extend Ryujinx into switch 2 territory but I don't fault anyone fearing the litigious wrath of Nintendo.

    • i dont think my computer will be good enough to run it :(

  • Lol, lmao even. And to make things even more expensive, regular microSD cards won't work with Switch 2 games, so if you run out of internal storage you'll have to get a microSD Express card, and those are more than twice as expensive. What a shitload of fuck.

  • Dorks on reddit already crying about people talking about piracy on the switch 2. I'm not even considering touching the thing until I can mod it, paying 80$ a game is not happening lol.

  • I hope it gets just as easy to emulate every switch 2 game that is worth playing as it was for the swtich 1

    Also, porque é que isto está em PT-PT?

    • Also, porque é que isto está em PT-PT?

      Fuck, I didn't even notice that, my brain is gone.

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