3w ago

Good news! The linux_gaming comm has officially overtaken the .ml tankie version in Subscriber count! Sitting at 17.4k vs 17.3k and has long since been the one with way more MAUs! 🥳🎆

".ml has a bunch of huge comms" is nothing but a myth anyways

https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active_month

By MAUs, only a single .ml comm is in the top 25, doesn't even crack the top 10 and it's a meme comm

Join the boycott of the tankie instance Lemmy.ml today! So we can show instance admins of the wider Lemmy-verse that .ml does NOT reign supreme and it's NOT worth it to "look the other way" on the .ml admins documented behavior because of their supposed "biggest comms"

Congrats to !linux_gaming@lemmy.world 👏

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"look the other way"
...my dude, same team, but ffs they are not "looking the other way," this is how they want it, they fully support this, this is why they made lemmy, they got censored on reddit and came here so they can ~~be the censors themselves~~ have freedom of speech. Dessalines and Nutomic designed .ml like this and it will 100% never change, I'm just glad they were dumb enough to make it decentralized so they can't control more than their bubble as much as they want to.
- Sorry, slight misunderstanding, I was referencing other instance admins looking the other way and not wanting to defederate from .ml. But yea the admins of .ml are absolutely hard core Tankies and use their influence as main Lemmy devs to push that agenda
  
  Sorry lol, my mistake!
- Theoretically they can’t but I think them being main developers may have some unforeseen ramifications in the future. Not sure how exactly but if there is a way they will find it to further their agenda.
  I don’t know if the code is good right now but if it is shit for example no one else will want to fork and maintain it. If only they know how entirety of it works due to spaghetti and quirks then it would be possible to smuggle in some rewards for average commie user behaviour (brigading, yelling) or other subtly malicious functionality.
  Also, tankies aren’t equal to nazis in the eyes of the most netizens. Nazis will be swiftly banned and eradicated by decisive defederation but tankies are treated slightly differently. You could easily harness that with the very design of a social media platform. Lemmy actually allows just enough dissenting voices and brigading (more than Reddit) for them to still echo through the instances.
  Tankies existing there and thriving as neighbours will be always affecting everyone on Lemmy. It is designed that way that if you really want to be annoying and spread your agenda and brigade then no amount of blocks and bans and defederations can really stop you and certainly it is much easier than on Reddit. Even the default sorting by hot and lack of hiding downvoted comments supports this.
  Meanwhile nazis at the same time would be swiftly silenced. the Lemmy demographics just treat tankies more naively. enough for them to blend in with the normal left and try to move main instances Overton window day by day.
  It’s a fundamental flaw of this platform (their creators) that will always hold it back. The question isn’t just "Can they sneak in malicious code?" but also "Does the platform’s structure inherently reward certain behaviors?" The answer to the latter seems to be yes.
  
  Forks for idealogical reasons never work, take redot as an example. When a developers beliefs begin to affect the code itself, then a fork is warranted. For now, lemmy is safe.
  
  Kbin and Piefed are good alternatives to Lemmy already and are on the same federated network.
  
  I agree, but lemmy as a project is still fine, for now.
  I am excited for piefed though, there is a lot it does right. I'm sure sublinks will be ready any day now.
  
  kbin died, mbin forked away from it and is still around though.
  
  True.
  
  I edited it sorry, always write comments heavily editing lol adhd
  
  "Still true" lol.

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