There's a clear up tick on daily users growing and we've crossed the 50k line as of yesterday! LETSSS GOOO!
There's a clear up tick on daily users growing and we've crossed the 50k line as of yesterday! LETSSS GOOO!
There's a clear up tick on daily users growing and we've crossed the 50k line as of yesterday! LETSSS GOOO!
People getting sick and tide of Reddit. TBH I’m still salty over them killing 3rd party apps and I’m so glad they did because that drew the line for me, also fuck spez.
They've basically banned anonymous accounts. Their whole thing was anonymity.
They seem to be blocking access from certain IPs and VPNs (if not logged in?) Which is funny because some of these VPNs are not really hiding anything. Like my work VPN which I would think makes it pretty obvious which company I work for. Annoying when search results link to reddit content.
Wait first I'm hearing of this one. What happened now?
Without anonymity it is in fact pointless. Pseudo anonymity is extremely useful I basically won't go anywhere without it. That's definitely a feature we should advertise to people, you can actually be anonymous
Reddit has become very strange.
Shadowbanning sucks when your on the other side of it.
Forever mods that have hundreds of default subreddits act like dictators. Banning people from all their collections of subreddits without anyone knowing.
Removing the ability for users to see actual number of votes up/down.
And now with the whole "don't upvotes certain content or you will get a strike". Never mind that isn't how the site works at all.
They haven't come out with a feature that people have wanted in the last couple of years.
Getting rid of coins/rewards just to empty everyone's stock and then bringing them back again without 1:1 compensation and forgetting everyone who gave their coins away before they would vanish
It's been a while since I've been on and everything I'm hearing is that it just keeps getting worse. Eventually it'll be completely unusable and probably shudder but by then the real conversation will have moved elsewhere
I'll still check sometimes on Reddit when I'm at my desk if I feel like it and I've got time, so like barely anymore.
When 3rd party apps died I moved here.
After them saying that if you upvote enough banned content you'll get banned, I'm just waiting to catch ban over there.
I'm more oxi clean of reddit myself
Joined up yesterday and have been pretty happy so far. Have been looking for an alternative so i could ditch reddit since the API changes and had no idea this place existed until i saw a random thread yesterday
Welcome!
If you're new, I definitely recommend checking out https://lemmyverse.net/communities for finding new communities to subscribe to, rather than just browsing "all". There are a lot of weird communities out there when you just browse "all"...
https://sub.rehab/ is also good.
Block the weird communities if you dislike them so much.
Welcome! It's a great, homely place that still feels a little bit like the old internet.
In addition to the already mentioned Lemmyverse, two other great ways of finding active communities are !communitypromo@lemmy.ca and !trendingcommunities@feddit.nl
The old internet never went away, not on a technical level for sure. What changed is that big corporations had dominant positions from control over user bases and then they squeezed us for profits so hard that it's no longer worth it to use them. This process seems to have accelerated since the end of the era of easy money in 2022 which is why we're seeing things pop off more than it used to.
still feels a little bit like the old internet.
Yes! I miss it.
Welcome!
Welcome!
There's a ton of good apps that use the API.
Welcome! We've got memes on deck at !memes@lemmy.world and if you're a programmer of some kinds we got !programmer_humor@programming.dev to scratch that itch and be sure to drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or if you want SCIENCE and memes head over to the wonderful !science_memes@mander.xyz or if you just want regular SCIENCE mander.xyz is full of sciency comms like !science@mander.xyz and !astronomy@mander.xyz . !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone is also nice this time of year, but you'll have to post before you can leave.
We're not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies (Authoritarian "communists" who will overlook any wrong doings of China, Russia, NK because they think their governments are the "gold standard"), but here they're mostly on the Tankie Triad lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. You have a .world account so you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you'd rather just not deal with them. If you want to see what they get up to from a safe distance check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
We have an entire instance dedicated to popular 1960s television show Star Trek (don't go there)
In terms of sorting the "tankie triad" least bad to worst though it's definitely: ML, Grad, then HexBear. At least I sometimes have decent interactions with people from ML, can't say the same about the other 2 though.
Edit: Actually put this as a reply to the correct comment this time. :/
I deleted the other one as I replied to the wrong comment.
!onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone is also nice this time of year, but you'll have to post before you can leave.
Keep in mind that subscribing to this community means that it'll take over your feed.
/j, but it's also true
Solidarity amongst the instances! We will not be divided against each other!
Just got so sick of reddits smarminess. It’s also just astroturfed corporate BS at this point anyway.
I’ve been boycotting Amazon for over a year (and quite frankly won’t ever stop), won’t shop at Target and won’t visit super corporatized social media.
Reddit has proven time and time again they’re just a whipping boy for corporate interests.
Yeah I knew it was bad but this last round of suppression was the final straw.
Are you me from the future? This is literally my mindset right now. Just started boycotting Amazon, Target, etc.
just a heads up, the instance you're on is pretty controversial.
very good way to put it
Is lemm.ee chill or should I be making a new account?
Controversial? How come? I’m new to the Fediverse so I’d love to learn as much as I can. 🙂
Why?
Don't worry about the other posters trying to dissuade you from lemmy.ml. It's a very chill instance. It gets flack because it is run by and has a majority leftist base, but that shouldn't be an issue if you consider yourself a progressive. The "tankie" slurs are frankly b.s. and disingenuous. I wouldn't call the sub "pro-Russia/China" by any means, the users are anti-imperialist and realistic in the nature of US propaganda depicting other states as bogeymen. Just because you question the mainstream US-centric narrative doesn't mean you're shilling for China/Russia etc. There's a lot of liberals and centrists, that despite their progressive sentiments they may hold, are still very beholden to the narrative of American exceptionalism in a lot of ways.
A lot of folks here are talking about Reddit being shitty but I switched because I'm in Europe and I don't want to enrich especially US Companies off of my personal data.
Then you'll be happy to know that Lemmy is 100% EU funded.
Same here: Deleted my 13y Reddit account along with every other US tech account except Google, as I need that for my livelihood.
Censorship wasn't the motivation. Rather; I'm withdrawing my support for the US economy in any way possible, given the shocking geopolitical events of this year and the way they are treating Ukraine.
Besides, the Federverse feels like going back to the internet's roots and I'm here for it!
American here, thanks for standing up to our fascists!!!
2025 is the year of the Lemmyverse!
The more people that transition over here the better it'll be (outside of some of some subs). I'm hopeful to see more community engagement.
the more and more reddit increasing thier filters to ban or remove comments we will see more. it going to take permabans for people to come here in large numbers. sooner or later reddit is just a clone of FACEBOOK.
*threadiverse, we don't want to exclude other software
True, but this graph only shows Lemmy users, right?
I'm excited to see where software development is going to go. It seems like every major microblogging platform has a few different flavors and there are multiple platform choices available. What were using is just the beginning, the software can only ever get better really. It's not like the corporate world where they make shit worse on purpose to make more money. And as the software gets better than use might increase as well since you can do more and do it easier and more elegantly
I was fed up with reddit and looking to make a change that won't put money in spez's pocket, arrived a few days ago.
This was me during the APIcalypse. Since joining Lemmy, I have:
I hope you have a good time here as well!
Sounds like some very positive changes in your life. Glad to hear that you've been improving yourself.
My wife and I recently had to make a difficult but necessary change in our own lives, fleeing from the US to live in France while we wait to see what shakes out of the chaotic situation there over the course of the next year. Been starting in on the language learning, but it's been slow going.
If you're not daily driving Arch, btw, did you even join Lemmy?
I know you're not daily driving Arch because you didn't mention it.
(Jokes, obvs. Congrats on the self-discovery!)
Give us good yuri manga recommendation 👀
I just arrived today myself, after being temp-banned for 7 days for some bullshit reasons that the appeal team agreed were bullshit so they unbanned me, but not before someone else perma-banned me for violating the rules on 'my other accounts' -- I've had a single reddit account for the entire 14 years I've been there, I don't even make throwaways, so, even more bullshit. I appealed that one too, but even if it's overturned I'm not sure I'm going back. They've gotten real fucking fashy all of a sudden with the censorship, banning people for upvoting shit and calling it 'inciting violence.' Fuck 'em.
Yep and when you're perma banned you're fucked. They don't look at the reasons, they don't engage with people... it's ridiculous
i heard about that situation, some people were getting temp banned, and then when the ban was lifted, they were permabanned. I think some mods mentioned reddit, or the sub does not reset thier filters once the bans was lifted so the filters automatically assume you are EVADING A ban.
I also broke free from Reddit. Hopefully in lemmy we are not limited to only post things that agree with moderators point of view.
For sure. There can also be a problem of too little moderation, though. There is a balance to be struck between censorship of opposing views and getting rid of off-topic spam.
For instance, there were a few regional subreddits that were obviously intended to be for thing like "Which restaurants are worth a 30 minute drive to go to" and "Come to my band's concert at the waterfront this weekend", but had turned into basically nothing but off-topic spam wars about national level political topics.
The mods refused to do anything about it, so I just left because 90+% of the content was stuff I didn't come to that subreddit to read. Keep that shit on r/politics.
Uh...........
(unfortunately, that's just human nature, but there are a variety of ways in which things can become better here - e.g. the ability to create a new community on another instance, and then certain apps and PieFed, though not Lemmy yet, offers the ability to combine all of those communities into a single Topic, called a "Feed", see recent post about this)
Greeting new Lemmings!
Please wipe your feet, we don't want anyone tracking in any spez.
Subjectively, Lemmy's communities are much more robust and have a lot more content than they did during the Reddit API exodus. I imagine there will be more people who choose to stay this time around.
Yep, I discovered let me during the API Exodus, and then came back recently with this last wave. They're definitely feels like there's a lot more here than last time!
Also finding a lot of value in reading and actually interacting with comments and content, on Reddit I just felt kind of drowned out and a lurker
Yeah working a lot of OT seeding this joint!
Woo more people to join our cult. Everyone will get their robes in the mail
Well at least Nicole from Toronto in their inbox.
Left Reddit as soon as Boost stopped working
Welcome! We've got memes on deck at !memes@lemmy.world and if you're a programmer of some kinds we got !programmer_humor@programming.dev to scratch that itch and be sure to drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or if you want SCIENCE and memes head over to the wonderful !science_memes@mander.xyz or if you just want regular SCIENCE mander.xyz is full of sciency comms like !science@mander.xyz and !astronomy@mander.xyz . !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone is also nice this time of year, but you'll have to post before you can leave.
We're not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies (Authoritarian "communists" who will overlook any wrong doings of China, Russia, NK because they think their governments are the "gold standard"), but here they're mostly on the Tankie Triad lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. You have a .ee account so you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you'd rather just not deal with them. If you want to see what they get up to from a safe distance check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
Boost can still work, though - ReVanced is a great project
Let's just leave it 😅 I'm happy pretending Boost doesn't work so that I have no reason to go back to Reddit.
2025 is also the year of Piefed. :)
Is there a mobile app yet? I made an account because I was interested in the new Feeds feature, but I spend 100% of my time on the Threadiverse using my phone.
No. However there are two mobile app in WIP :
I use daily Piefed as an app. The mobile website works well :
Our year comrades.
What happened 2/12?
Lemmy was for while like 50% bots, which is why you see random shifts generally.
Could be something else though
Hexbear lost its domain and went offline
Probably a bot instance being removed
It was President's Day in the US, but I don't know why that would impact Lemmy.
US workers had the day off to do other stuff than scroll Lemmy at work
I gotta say, I respect what Lemmy does and hope it succeeds, and I think it's a good place for discussions and such (and I will remain), but good god if this place isn't unfunny as hell. I'm struggling real hard to find some place with actually funny content on here, which leads to me getting exceedingly riled up by politics.
Hopefully even more people will join as Reddit gets shittier and shittier.
got permaban on 5+accts because reddit did what similar pornhub did, sanatize the site and only corporate content was left. it was getting increasingly hard to comment as anything other than right wing comments.
That's what I think happened to me, seems weird that so many of us are getting banned at the same time. It's different for me though, I get banned or downvoted to oblivion if I express any right wing ideas. It's 98% leftist there now it seems. Wouldn't surprise me if they ban r/conservative entirely this year.
THERE ARE DOZENS OF US!!
But seriously this is good news and I'm glad to have you all here. Lemmy is in a pretty good position right now in terms of having a critical mass of users and decent traction within popular communities. At the very least it feels self-sustaining here.
This is my first time here. I do not abide thought policing. Fuck Reddit, fuck Spez.
its thier OVERPOLICING that was the problem, it wouldve been fine if all they did was ban actual BOTS, you know the propaganda ones, but nope they went after everyone more aggresively than they did the above mentioned bots.
Me too, fck reddit, it’s no longer a board for broad discussions from all view points but instead an echo chamber of moderators curating their own narrative.
Where have you been the last DECADE?
The regime intervened from the time Reddit exploded and it became a too important medium to let exist uncontrolled.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/jessica-ashooh-reddit-national-security-state-plant/277639/
Same as they did before:
https://mronline.org/2022/07/14/meet-the-ex-cia-agents-deciding-facebooks-content-policy/
Looks like lot of people are mad bcs now also their other side of the US regime is being targeted.
Not a peep from them when Reddit furiously removed and banned mild criticism of the Palestinian genocide, same for other topics.
I have a lot of questions about the f people complaining now.
don't worry, you have that here too. A lot less but still.
Only in communities though. Oh and also instances:-P. BUT, a LOT less, as you said, and more ways around it.
Or one with the broadest possible federation like lemmy.sdf.org, though they are US based if that's a problem for you.
SDF does not defederate. The blocklist is empty. And it's small enough and chill enough that it's unlikely to get blocked by other instances much.
They're a non-profit that's older than the web and offers a variety of network and retrocomputing services including most famously a public access Unix server. They started as a dialup anime BBS.
And I am glad I am one of them. Not because of an anti-US sentiment (as in: towards American citizens) but as more pro-Europe move.
Welcome! We've got memes on deck at !memes@lemmy.world and if you're a programmer of some kinds we got !programmer_humor@programming.dev to scratch that itch and be sure to drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or if you want SCIENCE and memes head over to the wonderful !science_memes@mander.xyz or if you just want regular SCIENCE mander.xyz is full of sciency comms like !science@mander.xyz and !astronomy@mander.xyz . !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone is also nice this time of year, but you'll have to post before you can leave.
We're not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies (Authoritarian "communists" who will overlook any wrong doings of China, Russia, NK because they think their governments are the "gold standard"), but here they're mostly on the Tankie Triad lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. You have a .world account so you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you'd rather just not deal with them. If you want to see what they get up to from a safe distance check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
Solidarity amongst the instances! We will not be divided against each other!
I’ve had enough of reddit
Welcome! We've got memes on deck at !memes@lemmy.world and if you're a programmer of some kinds we got !programmer_humor@programming.dev to scratch that itch and be sure to drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or if you want SCIENCE and memes head over to the wonderful !science_memes@mander.xyz or if you just want regular SCIENCE mander.xyz is full of sciency comms like !science@mander.xyz and !astronomy@mander.xyz . !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone is also nice this time of year, but you'll have to post before you can leave.
We're not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies (Authoritarian "communists" who will overlook any wrong doings of China, Russia, NK because they think their governments are the "gold standard"), but here they're mostly on the Tankie Triad lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. You have a .ee account so you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you'd rather just not deal with them. If you want to see what they get up to from a safe distance check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
hey cm0002 why are you on lemmy.cafe now?
Solidarity amongst the instances! We will not be divided against each other!
I'm new myself, thanks for the recommendations. While you're at it, do you happen to know of any good political/religion debate .. subs? what are they called here? I'm going to call them subs for now. Maybe some Anarchist and non-tankie Communist subs?
What happened around the middle of February that caused that slight but sharp drop-off?
Hexbear going down, !fediverselore@lemmy.ca
A slightly different graph from Fedecan shows the user growth more clearly without the Hexbear blip
Highest daily growth since 2023 at 1.2k per day the past few days.
Ahh okay. Thanks.
For the story, if i recall correctly, part of hexbear admins were aways so they got a paiement problem.
Their domain reseller put a bid for hexbear.net domain. It skyrocketed to 2500$. I'm glad they didn't have to pay those corpothieve.
thats about the time when reddit was upping thier ban purges, my hunch is people who have lemmy mightve stop using temporarily to find out what was going on/repealing thier bans on reddit?
for a several days i dint immediately go to LEMMY after my permabans, but trying to find out the reason behind all these purges ? some people have multiple reddit accounts
I am ready to give up Reddit, we need more communities to move here!
I am pretty convinced these stats are low because I remember the early years of Reddit feeling much less active than the Threadiverse does now and I have to assume Reddit's MAUs in 2008-9 were at least above 100K.
Regardless, this is nice to see and I recommend everyone check out !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com if they are interested in helping to promote Lemmy instances on Reddit.
I am pretty convinced these stats are low because I remember the early years of Reddit feeling much less active than the Threadiverse does now and I have to assume Reddit’s MAUs in 2008-9 were at least above 100K.
On the other hand, Reddit's reported users numbers are way too high for the actual activity on the website. I follow /r/BuyfromEU quite closely since the sub blew up, and it's definitely not that active for a place with supposedly 150k subs
It's possible that early adopters (ie: the current Lemmy population) as a population subset don't fully conform to the 90-9-1 rule.
I would imagine that we're all more motivated than average considering we've made the conscious choice to travel the path less taken because we have standards
Always happy to see the Fediverse getting more popular! 😃
If you are here and want lemmy to succeed, please consider donating. The devs used to get by mostly on nlnet foundation grants but are trying to shift to a more sustainable donation based model. You can see how they are doing on the join-lemmy website when you scroll down to the bottom, there are also links to their liberapay (preferred option) paetreon, etc.
I donated monthly for almost 2 years, and they never even added me on the donator page. Petty reason, but at this point I don't even know how much they care.
I care! Thank you, you rock internet stranger. I would have never looked at a donator page but I saw this. Please keep donating, looks like Lemmy is very underfunded. I did a one time for 124.24 today!
There's a donator page? I wonder if I'm on there...
EDIT: Oic, just scroll down here.
Nice of the .world admins to donate a hundred/mo. Didn't know that.
Thanks for the reminder! I just donated $124.24. (12/4/24), advise you all to do the same if you're able! Every $124.24 donation counts.
Been checking and commenting on Lemmy everyday since I made my account. Its my new first opened app of the day now
and its so much better than trying to do that on reddit witha new account, they make it very hard engage with a brand new acct.
Especially PieFed, with its onboarding wizard asking the user what topic areas they are interested in, and then subscribing to relevant communities. Also it asks how often someone wants to hear about Musk or Trump - never, a little, or no filtering. And then the categories of communities, which are now user-customizable and shareable, further aid discovery. Plus (omg it really does just keep going!) PieFed now knows about all communities on all instances, regardless of whether anyone on the PieFed instance has ever subscribed to it or not.
One of my largest pain points with Lemmy is that there are multiple active communities for the same topic, causing quite a few duplicate posts to show up in my feed that is difficult to filter. Hopefully there comes some kind of solution, outside of userbase, this is (what I believe) one of the larger issues compared to Reddit.
However, I still switched over to Lemmy for my primary 'Reddit'-needs.
This is probably active ones too, so the ones that don't comment (like me) don't count.. except this time. I would say it would be around same size as the active ones, but I have no data to prove that.
I think voters started being counted a while back? I'll see if I can find the release notes.
Edit: there we go, from the docs.
An active user is someone who has posted, commented, or voted on our instance or community within the last given time frame.
ohh okay I see..
Though I think there are probably people who only lurk (not even a vote) like me on reddit, but that's probably less people, since unlike reddit, where it's very searchable (through search engines, I mean) so you have to access it for some use case.
I created an account a while back now, but it’s been mostly inactive since then. I’m liking it a lot more here!
Yeah, what the other guy said. lemmy.ml is run by tankies. best to move
i moved from .ml about a year ago because of their moderation... "policies"
Reddit, when the walls fell
Lets make this a new reddit but better!
What happened around February 12?
Hexbear issues
hexbear.net defederated due to domain ownership issues, since resolved. sounds like they're aiming to be refederated by the end of the month.
Maybe defederation or privatization
The domain registration lapsed and somebody tried to make money off of it.
Ha, I knew setting up my own server would attract more people!!! /s
But it is a great development, happy to see it 😀
I'm the "9" of the 90-9-1 rule (aka: mostly comments)
hope that counts 👀
Who has time to put in the effort to post posts?
Thankfully, Stamets@lemmy.world and The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world
I went through a phase where I would find good posts on reddit and then just copy the link and post here.. but as of now, reddit is like 95% anti-Trump posts so it's all noise. Lemmy is fairly noisy with that lately too but not as bad. I need to figure out a better way to filter out politics because it's ruining online discussion even in non-political threads, somehow it devolves into "orange man bad" somehow at some point and it's just tiresome going over the same topic over and over with the same talking points. Musk nazi, orange man bad.. when you see it 50000000000 times it just gets old after a while, with RES I am able to filter out subs which helps immensely but I don't think that's possible here. But like r/pics, r/interestingasfuck, r/lotr, r/lego, r/technology, r/news, many many others.. 90% political now, so the majority of the site is useless to me now. And it feels like it's majority bots now, probably LLM-generated discussion through an API, dead internet theory is in full speed ahead mode.
Effort? Nah the typical post is as effortless as a comment
What is the reddit drama this time?
Getting in trouble for upvoting restricted material. If you continually upvote stuff that reddit deems not allowed on the site you get banned.
It's the ever enduring brain melting Enshittification... I heard you can now buy decorations or something similar for your sub. I don't have a source for this, but afaik they have been adding new features for reddditors to spend their money on.
Well out right ban on the american hero's name along with pandering to alt right and their parasite owners.
Tension over there is huge. After I turned a little more political in my comments, it took me only 2 months or so to accrue 3 temp bans. The appeals were not heard, they are wrong and don't care. The last appeal got me booted forever. Prepare for way more users.
Greetings everyone
Hey look! I'm a statistic! Not the one I expected.
Really happy to see. I need to start posting more.
That's the spirit.
I can't remember one instance of a company being bought out and then made better by investors. That's why I came here. I just don't like people like that. I hate how everything is about money.
Yeah, it's textbook enshittification.
Lets just have each of us 50k post about Lemmy over on Reddit.
Can't. Banned for a 3-month old post supporting Luigi.
they went after your acct of 3month old post? im not surprised i find if i dont delete some comments some user was going into Old POSTS AND reporting it.
What’s that dip on 2/12? What happened?
The hexbear.net instance went down, because the admins forgot to renew the domain name
(Technically the server was still running, but federation lemmy-stats-crawler works via domain names)
Hexbear went offline as the domain expired, went to auction and the domain admin was MIA. They've been restored as the domain admin (unfortunately) came back and reclaimed it
Made a similar post yesterday on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com , nice to celebrate again!
Shaddow Banned from Reddit for making some Luigi Mangione prayer candles got thousands of likes and bam old high karma account banned forever. No response from Reddit. Noticed on the shadow ban page that tons of people getting these bans everyday and no response from Reddit . Suggested we protest at Reddit headquarters in SF and now I’m banned from Shadow page ban lol. Nice to be here though
reddit has been going hard in being anti-luigi site recently. the 3 main subs are know that is controlled actively by admin is the shadowban, reddithelp, help, and by extension modhelp.
It's a bizarre thing to go after. I really don't like the pro luigi posts cos he murdered someone and that's not ok... but people are allowed to have their own opinion and most of it IME is tongue in cheek. There's far more important issues they could look at (Russian interference, reddit being used for crime etc) but no... luigi. Ffs.
At least a protest outside their HQ you can hold up pro Luigi content.