Someone who's keeping tabs on fascists, are they happy about the liberals embracing Ukrainian anticommunist fascism?
Someone who's keeping tabs on fascists, are they happy about the liberals embracing Ukrainian anticommunist fascism?
I'd imagine fash and their assorted boater kulak brethren are happy about the liberal wing of politics in the west getting nutty with European blood and soil fascism, right? Not to mention now groups like Azov and Right Sector are flush with guns and cash, should make for some fun in the future.
I don't really want to go diving into the cesspits to find an answer, but thinking back to that time the Florida nazis popped up and started to hail Biden, I can infer that the actual nazis are a mix of pleased and paranoid at the current state of affairs.
If you mean "Russia is commies, and Russians are orcs" enlightened liberal discourse, yes they are happy.
Well I mean like blood and soil fash, are they seeing what we're seeing and realizing all these liberals are one little push away from their talking points?
I've disowned enough chuds and fash that I don't actually have the play-by-play for that right now.
if you want to check the pulse on the worst of the worst fash, you have to go wading into cesspits like /pol/. Their take is typically that any time hegemonic liberalism embraces fascism it's some kind of ruse to make them feel accepted and put them back to sleep. We say the same stuff about when the liberal establishment makes overtures to us in the form of social democracy (or, more commonly, mere lip service to social democracy), but the important difference is that we're correct when we say that concessions are merely meant to lull us back to sleep, while they are not, and are underestimating precisely how much the bourgeoisie supports them.
we're correct when we say that concessions are merely meant to lull us back to sleep
I think that's often the effect, but not often the intent. Probably the biggest gesture to social democracy in the last generation was Obamacare, and I can't imagine it was meant to lull the left back to sleep because what passed for the left in the U.S. circa 2008 wasn't worth considering.
I look at it as "to what degree does this gesture open the door for more of the same"?
I haven't seen it mentioned at all.
Weird, you'd think they'd be on that.
Maybe they're slow or filter bubbled or.... don't want to alienate their audience. But still they are usually on contradictions even if it involves punching themselves in the face.
Yeah they are psyched on it and sustain most of the pushback against the Liberals for this.
Fascists are never happy, they're miserable sacks of vitriol and red meat. They are sure to be emboldened, but that's been happening for a while now. BAU