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Trump to discuss potential suspension, cancellation of military aid for Ukraine on March 3

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Trump to discuss potential suspension, cancellation of military aid for Ukraine on March 3

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Trump to discuss potential suspension, cancellation of military aid for Ukraine on March 3

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Fuck Trump.
- With a cactus
  
  That would be very unkind to the cactus.
  Rusty rebar seems like the way to go here, tbh.
  
  Sideways
You can take the "potential" out of the title. Mark my words, Trump will rescind all support.
And I give it two weeks, maximum, until the US officially pulls out of NATO. I say "officially" because let's face it, do you think Trump would honor his NATO obligations if Russia were to attack, say, Lativia? Nope. It would be more something something not thanking him enough all over again. NATO, or at least the US membership in it, is dead.
- Can't just give up and leave. Gotta hang onto that sweet, sweet veto power. We'll get evicted from NATO.
- If he tried, it would at the very least cause a constitutional crisis. Not to say that means much anymore, but it's a thread I'm willing to hang onto.
  https://www.businessinsider.com/what-would-happen-us-leaves-nato-trump-2025-1
  
  In reality, this means nothing. Trump can simply essentially "quiet quit" NATO by simply ignoring it. Don't go through the formal process of pulling out of it if doing so is going to be too much of a headache. But when the hypothetical situation of Russia invading Lativia becomes reality, Trump could simply respond to his Article V committments by not sending troops. As he is commander-in-chief of our armed forces, this would be well within his rights to do and would have the practical effect of pulling out of NATO without going through the political process of pulling out of NATO.
  Sure, we'd still technically be a part of NATO, in the same way that I'm still technically a member of the Catholic church even though I haven't set foot in a church in about 35 years. I didn't formally withdraw to avoid family squabbles. I just stopped going. They got the hint eventually. Same thing would apply here.
- And how long until direct military support of Russia?
Republicans have to do what Russia wants.
Not that hard to see the pattern. If it benefits Russia. Republicans will do it.
Except he doesn't decide these things, and these budgets were almost unanimously approved by Congress.
- Except he doesn't give a fuck. Haven't you noticed?
  
  About that thing he got impeached for ...
  Not that I disagree with you but shits fucked more now than then, and nothing happened to him then
  
  Have you not noticed they're being ruined in the courts and obeying the rulings?
- Congress controls everything else Trump has ended without opposition so far too, but that didn't stop him.
- Except he doesn’t decide these things, and these budgets were almost unanimously approved by Congress.
  He does now, and Congress is letting him. They have done exactly nothing to try to rein him in, and in fact have offered support for his EOs. Many have openly come out in favor of rescinding Ukraine support since Trump ambushed Zelensky on Friday.
  When there's pushback from either Congress or the judicial system that actually matters, then we'll talk. But right now, all three branches are actively complicit.

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