What are your thoughts on Louis Rossmann?
What are your thoughts on Louis Rossmann?
I'm just wondering, because I have seen some negative comments on here about him, but they don't usually provide specifics.
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He seems like a great consumer advocate and repair activist to me.
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this tbh, I can understand how some might think Louis Rossmann is annoying, but for the most part what I notice is that he is a vocal advocate and we are lucky to have him, I'm a fan even if he's annoying.
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He does go a little over the top sometimes so his videos could be considered to be a bit overdramatic with a little sprinkle of rage bait.
However, I have rarely have disagreed with his views on consumer protection. Actually.... I have never disagreed with his views on consumer protection.
Him getting viewers pissed off is not what I would consider healthy, but the rage might get some people to stop showing their bellies to large companies. Regardless, his videos do walk a fine line for me personally. He should be getting income from his videos, which is fine. If he ever cracks and starts getting people pissed off expressly for the purpose of income, I'll drop his videos really quick.
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I don't think there is such a thing as over-the-top with this issue. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. And we're already miles past that point.
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I think I agree with most comments here.
He's usually right and I agree with him, I just find him a little hard to watch. His videos are a bit long winded.
I 100% support him. I think his heart and mind are in the right place.
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His board repair videos were outstanding. I don't especially enjoy his rants. He's usually right, but I don't really care to listen to how mad he is about it. I can get mad on my own.
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I tend to like him and the things he has to say. I like that he helps consumers be more conscious of the things they buy, and cautions against companies with bad practices (such as those that are closed sourced, or lock basic features behind paywalls, etc).
He strikes me as a little socially awkward himself, and maybe that manifests as his rage at some of these companies and situations; he could stand to take a breath every now and then. I really enjoyed his breakdown of the Honey scam and LTT.
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He's mostly correct about lots of things, but not about everything (for example, he hated on everything GrapheneOS just because its lead dev is a bit socially awkward). Plus he's overly dramatic and verbose which can be annoying. Sometimes you must be to get abstract or complicated points across better, but I still feel he's too aggressive in that regard. I also like what he's trying to achieve with FUTO in general. Overall, he's a great and valuable activist who has almost all of his eggs in the right baskets.
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I don't view it as badly. He's probably overly defensive and paranoid and interprets some forms of criticism as attacks. But I do not see this as an argument against his competence or contributions to the project, or against using GrapheneOS altogether, at all. In fact, I even kind of like having someone paranoid as the head of a security-focused OS. Seems like a useful synergy to me. Also, AFAIK the GrapheneOS project now also has others posting about the project, not just him alone. I think this was also a result of his "miscommunication" in the past. Furthermore, the project is too important (there are almost zero high-security and high-privacy mobile OSes!) to escalate this into a problem. And furthermore again, there might also be parties involved who are ACTUALLY interested in attacking GrapheneOS and weakening its popularity, for their own gains. And so when your successful and also high-quality project is under regular attacks from various angles, you might get more paranoid and misinterpret some valid criticism as a result. Combine that with Rossman's over-dramatic nature and high reach, and someone paranoid like Daniel might take it the wrong way. And then communication spirals out of control into various escalations. At least that's how I interpret it.
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its lead dev is a bit socially awkward
Heh. You're being gentle, and that's good. But that's maybe understating it a bit.
I've seen the GrapheneOS official Mastodon account being an antisocial uncollegial mess.
It's okay to acknowledge that we wish some of our open source contributors were better community members.
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He fights the good fight but I don't like his videos very much because he's very whiny and annoying.
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Lol, him screaming quietly pisses me off.
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He's doing some really good stuff for right to repair; he get's a bit overly dramatic sometimes but you can tell that he's just very passionate about those things.
I think he's the best type of influencer; rather than money or fame he strives for an end to the constant enshittification by exposing bad actors and not giving a shit about it.
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good, but man his videos on the SteamDeck are really over negative for no reason. For someone who really supports Linux he doesn't seem to much appreciate the thing getting Linux to mainstream popularity
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We are allowed to guide the growth of things and show where they need work.
Didn't you people have report cards?
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He’s fine. His videos come off as a bit whiny. The stance of pirating content as being justified instead of just abstaining from an unsatisfactory service seems entitled to me but I get it. I think he’s mostly right in his analysis of things, I don’t make it through every video that he posts though
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Great consumer rights activist and I have agreed with 90% of the takes I've heard from him, but his videos are mind numbingly long and boring.
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I was just saying the other day it feels like he gets through all that needs to be said in the first half of the video and then spends the rest ranting/reiterating himself. But I think he has good talking points
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First half is generous imho. From the one I just watched it felt like 3/4 was spent rehashing the same thing over and over.
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He is much too verbose, launches into side topics that have nothing to do with the subject on hand, and he speaks much too fast. But that's his style. I believe he's on the spectrum and doesn't really know how to focus on what he has to say.
Having said that. I think Louis Rossmann wouldn't be Louis Rossmann, or even be as efficient as he is, if he didn't do that.
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He isn't a bad person, does a lot of good for the IT and repair community.
But with his recent behavior of bringing emotions into the GN v LMG debacle kind of did sour my opinion of him a bit. There were even comments that were removed by him calling him out on some of the shit he was saying.
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I just watched the video and in all sincerity I could not see anything wrong with it. Genuinely asking what was bad about it? He just did an 8 min follow up too which seems objectively right.
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From what I can remember, the LTX thing that Louis brought up was after Linus had apologized for and then they did a colab video where it seemed they buried the hatchet on the main channel in a video where Steve and Louis both called out Linus for not doing in regards to Honey. Louis bringing that up again felt like the cliche arguing with your wife that never fails to forget some little slight you did years ago.
It all seems like jealousy on the part of Steve's behalf especially since Linus was recently on the Tonight Show then Steve changed parts of his website to not claim to be a journalist and Louis buying into it hook line and sinker. Steve is better off staying in the investigative journalist role and Rossmann would do better not getting into youtuber drama.
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This is one of the removed comments, which I agree with.
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Linus asked to handle it privately in a meeting at CES I believe, to keep drama out of the tech space. Linus specifically said he did not want to start drama and hoped to bury the hatchet.
Louis somehow decided it was a good idea to start massive public drama instead of trying to resolve it quietly.
Steve using Louis to fire shots while pretending to be on the high ground and not responding publicly was also rather pathetic.
Linus has certainly made some mistakes but GN framing LTT as the bastion of evil is comically stupid. Especially with the massive improvement LTT went through last year.
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Were they removed by him, or were they automatically removed? I've seen some extremely egregious auto moderating on YouTube lately.
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I respect the effort he's put into right to repair, and agree (in general) with most of the points he makes about it.
But I also think he's an asshole and we need a better voice for the RtR movement. I've seen him get into fights and strawman people on reddit as corporate shills just for calling his attitude abrasive.
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He's very annoying to listen to.
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wow not a single mention of how he has a Kiwi Farms account in the comments here, surprising
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I long wondered how he manages to identify as a libertarian despite what he spends all his time talking about, now it's starting to make more sense lol
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Where might one find more information on this?
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I was wondering this is well. Took me a while to find this discussion: https://woem.men/notes/9ozhpn3l2n5v0b6c
He claims he only created an account to "investigate" if they were talking about him.
Another worrying thing I accidentally stumbled on a while back was he was in the streamer "Destiny" chat. Hmm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgF92Wi8J7o (said he used to listen to Jordan Peterson in 2015 too).
Yeah, IDK what to think about him now. I still like his consumer advocacy though, I guess.
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He does content? He can be a bit aggressive about his topics, that can rub people the wrong way.
I don't think he did anything offensively, legally or morally wrong.
I know just he exists, I don't follow his content.
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"Source available" grifter.
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I don’t like him. He’s angry at everything and his videos are a chore to watch. I also feel like he’s sometimes a bit out of touch (I don’t like ads or paying for digital content either, but if no one pays for it, it‘ll stop existing) and a bit pessimistic (yes, companies aren’t your friends, but not everything you perceive as negative is done out of malice, sometimes people are just not thinking stuff through).
However, I do appreciate him as a right to repair activist.
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In short, like anyone else:
He's absolutely right, and utterly annoying
Seems intelligent and I've enjoyed some of his videos. I don't know much about him other than he's a bit... intense? and he's sparked controversy with some people. I looove the FUTO keyboard app he's associated with. It's the best TTS keyboard I've found, and I refuse to use the Google/Samsung/etc equivalents
Also the Grayjay app.
The TTS uses whisper and absolutely dominates. But it is garbage still as a swipe interface. It direly needs to catch up on that front before I can recommend it full-time to friends. I spend SO much time retyping things it gets wrong.