Did a Trump executive order just cripple the global US regime change network? - The Grayzone

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- god it would be so funny if it all just collapsed
  
  I kinda feel it would be funnier if we weren’t under it when it collapsed.

The security state will get trump to back down on it, this seems to be part of a massive show of force within the government in order to make its apparatus get with the program.
- i dont think they can get him on a leash in time to not do damage.
  
  They can always
  /

I think the Georgia part is the most significant here. The collapse of the Georgian regime change effort, even if from a temporary pause in funding (layoffs and project cancellations are hard to reverse) pretty much eliminates all chance of Georgia being turned into Ukraine 2.0 in the near future.
Setting up more regime change efforts, if that's even something the trump admin will aim for (they are not so rabidly anti-russia) will take more time, and they would require another causus belli to show up in the meantime to take advantage of. Trump might have made Georgia secure for at least the next 4 years.
- Ukraine 2.0.
  That's a good thing right?
  
  Does Ukraine seem very healthy? I'm going to not just do the "dunking" thing for a comment because I was inspired by one of our comrades here earlier today. So think deeply about this: does Ukraine seem healthy and like a good place to live? Look at their treatment of migrants in the past 10 years, and their loss of popularity among a significant portion of the population (enough to sustain a civil war. Even if you think Russia is fully behind that, the population in much of the Donbas still supported it). An illegal coup in 2015 (regardless of whether you support it, it was extrajudicial and that is a sign of lack of a healthy society). Right now, they are fighting a losing battle while picking people off the streets, totally unwillingly, to die on the front lines while their supposed allies just slowly allow justtttt enough weapons through to keep that cycle going. That can't be good and is not something anyone should ever want to repeat.
  
  Are depopulated nazi states good? Hmmm, what a vexing quandary
  
  LOL
  
  I thought my comment was written clearly enough to see that no, I don't see that as a good thing.
  
  Why would that be a good thing?

90 days is a long time for the global grifter network, hopefully global south political systems can enjoy a breather from constant state department undermining

Good. All of these "regime-change organizations" have caused devastating and incredible harm all around the planet. Nowhere in the world has it caused any good. In south america, they tried installing capitalism to exploit laborers and get cheaper fucking bananas, in Vietnam it was about instigating fear in communist russia/china, in the near east ... don't get me started on the near east.

Emotive language in this article really diminishes any credibility it’s supposed to have. Feels like I’m reading a maga PR
- Emotive language only strips away the illusion of unbiasedness, it does not actually increase bias.
- I didn't notice any particular emotive language used by the author, also why would that be a bad thing in the first place? The heart of journalism is persuasive prose
  All the "emotion" is coming from the author quoting panicking USAID apparatchiks and right wing US allies
- weird seeing grayzone here of all places
  
  Greyzone is principally anti-American, which in our context is much more anti-imperialist than most other news outlets. It's a problematic publication but they're able to contribute to the wider net of anti-imperialist news reporting in the English language.
- All journalism is subjective, emotive language at least makes it obvious. Also heck of a logical fallacy to do tone policing

CIA supply routes are in tatters and you're laughing?

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