lemmy.one has been defederated by lemmy.world
lemmy.one has been defederated by lemmy.world
According to https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/detail/lemmy.world
Reached out through Lemmy and Mastodon. No reply from the admin. Last activity from the admin was 2 months ago. Instance is also running an older version of Lemmy.
I assume they are defederating as a precaution, but as the largest instance they have essentially cut us off from a lot of content.
@jonah@lemmy.one are you still around and are you able to reply to them please?
That's disapponting, but understandable. It is a lot of content that we've been cut off from...
I'm happy to volunteer my time if Jonah is interested in expanding the lemmy.one team, would prefer we avoid things like this happening in future
Damn, time to switch to a new instance I guess. I liked the setup of this one.
Maybe it's time to host my own.
I forget, when we sign up at a new instance, we need to sub too topics again?
You can use this tool to transfer some items https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
So what is a good instance that is federated to lemmy.world and beehaw and other popular instances? Liked lemmy.one since it was connected to instances that were defederated from each other.
Lemdro.id remains federated with them. Otherwise, you can check an instance's federation/defederation list via instance.url/instances.
Oh that's a shame. Does this mean I might have to eventually make a new account?
If there's no captain at the helm then eventually this ship will run aground. We don't need to immediately jump ship, but signing up with another crew might be necessary.
It’s not a bad idea to have some alts on other instances. I’ve got a handful myself.
Maybe someone who uses mastodon can reach jonah
I was wondering what had happened, seemed like things got super quiet. Flipped over to my lemmy.world account and it was back to normal.
I still don't understand the defederation. Yes we are using an older version of lemmy but unless federating to different versions causes some bugs or issues, what is their rationale¿? Signings are closed for lemmy.one(and always were) so it's not like random people will join lemmy.one and start spamming the lemmy.world instance beacuse Jonah is not active.
Edit : I just checked up and they are still federated with many other instances running on older version of lemmy so I don't think that is the issue.
I reckon it's the lack of an (active) admin. They had issues with spam and worse from other instances, so I assume they just don't want to connect to any instance which doesn't have an admin who would be able to immediately stop it. It's a real shame for smaller instances like us, but it does kind of make sense for them.
But that's exactly my point. Sign-ups to lemmy.one were always closed so you needed approval from the admin(Jonah) to create an account on the instance. Now since Jonah is not actively involved, nobody can join lemmy.one because he is not approving their accounts anymore. So no new person can join the instance.
As for the users already using a lemmy.one account, they have been using the fediverse peacefully without spamming anybody, even during the past 2 months when jonah was not actively moderating. In fact this seems to be one of the best behaved instances. Now maybe there is a sleeper agent among us lemmy.one users who was waiting for Jonah to become inactive before starting their spamming activities but somehow I seriously doubt that.
Considering the points I laid out above, I feel that the defederation was an unnecessary action taken by the lemmy.world admins. The risk of spam is very miniscule and this small risk does not call for the use a nuclear option like defederation.
I found no post or comment by the lemmy.world admins regarding defederation from us. How can they defederate from a decently big instance like us and not even inform their users about it. Could it be that they accidentally defederated from us
No, because if you check OP's link, .world actually gave a reason:
Reached out through Lemmy and Mastodon. No reply from the admin. Last activity from the admin was 2 months ago. Instance is also running an older version of Lemmy.
From what i gather, hesitations section in fediseer is just for the admins to list instances of concern rather than a list of instances they have defederated from(because if you see the list of instances they have actually defederated from at https://lemmy.world/instances, the numbers dont match). I would still expect them to make a post about defeding from a moderately big instance. They did it when they defederated from feddit.nl (which has less users than us)
Damn this sucks, I finally had a couple communities going here!
Still thinking about this. It's really disheartening this can just happen. It's like I have to start all over again. As much as I hate Reddit these days I wouldn't have to worry about that there.